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Alternator Voltage Adjustment

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Darkmatter, Sep 2, 2024.

  1. Sep 2, 2024 at 3:11 PM
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    Darkmatter

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    I currently have my truck tuned and need to get a new battery. I am thinking about getting an Odyssey AGM battery. Do I really need to pay $300 for a whole new tune just to get the alternator output voltage adjusted to 14.5 volts or is there a way to just get a addon tune for the alternator?

    Thanks Rich
     
  2. Sep 2, 2024 at 3:14 PM
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    Bishop84

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    Honestly, we just warn of it, but all I would suggest is a trickle charger every month or two. It's more of an issue with demand on the AGM from accessories on top of lower charging voltage.

    A trickle charger is 40$ and its good just to own one.
     
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  3. Sep 2, 2024 at 4:01 PM
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    I own an older cheaper battery charger but not sure if it will work or if I need a newer model.
     
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    I've been running a Northstar since 2018 on a stock "2014 Sport" charging system.

     
  5. Sep 2, 2024 at 5:01 PM
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    This thread has a lot of good info about it...

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/the-northstar-agm-battery-voltage-booster-upgrade.604478/
     
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    Thanks
     
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    The 3rd Gen alternator is regulated by a PCM/ECU.
     
  8. Sep 2, 2024 at 7:11 PM
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    Yep I have the Kdmax Pro tune. When I reached out to them he said something about sending a file. Then said he would love to get me on this other tune but it would cost $300. That was a few days ago and I haven't heard from him since.
     
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    The chargers made for lead acid batteries aren't great to use newer AGM and Lithium car batteries. The trickle charger I use for my BMW has separate charging modes for each battery type.
     
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    NOCO makes chargers for AGM and the latest lithium Life PO4 batteries.
     
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    Go back to the same tuner, ask what they charge for re-flash they will usually not charge you for the full tune. You're already un locked. Should be somewhere in the $50 - $100 for the re-flash. Would probably be on the lower side if you catch them at a spot where they are already doing tunes.
     
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    I did and he said that he would love to get me on the new tune that he has for $300. He also said something about sending a file around a week ago and I haven't heard from him since. Between starting with Orange Virus tunes then having to pay for Vf tuner and Kdmax pro I have spent about $1300 so far. Not looking forward to spending another $300 for slightly better performance and to be able to use an AGM Battery.
     
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    Which NOCO charger are you suggesting the genius 2 or up to 10.
     
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    I've had Genius 2 for three years and it has worked great keeping mine topped up all throughout covid. I still use it periodically on both of our vehicles to desulfate and top off.

    2 is slow on larger truck batteries so I'd get a 5 or higher if you need to charge/top off overnight or faster. I'll just leave mine plugged in the garage if I know I don't have to go anywhere for a day or two
     
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    Ive been using a genius 10 for a few years and its done exactly what i need it to.
     
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    I think the charge is because of the change over from KDMax to YotaWerx. There was about a 2 month period where it was free to change over, but that has ended.

    So there will be a charge for switching over from KDMax Pro 9.0 to YotaWerx Blackhawk 2.0.
     
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    I believe you are correct and maybe I misunderstood the message he sent me. Because when he said he would send a file I thought he meant a file just for the voltage.

    Hey Rich, AGMs just prefer a slightly higher voltage curve and yes we would provide a flash file that includes that adjustment. While I would love to provide you with the newer YotaWerx Blackhawk tune I now offer it's a $300 cost which I know is a large investment. I wish I could offer a better deal on that....and if you are interested but just not in the cost please let me know. If I get enough customers wanting the on-going support but looking for a more cost-effective solution perhaps we can get a deal together!
     
  18. Sep 3, 2024 at 10:25 AM
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    If you can flash your own truck, and paid for the tune in the past, you can get an AGM battery tune file for free.
    Let me know if I can help. PM me if needed.
     
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    The Genius 10 is a good buy at $99.95 on Amazon...it will do the job.

     
  20. Sep 3, 2024 at 6:33 PM
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    Okay thanks.
     

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