A moderator with a Tacoma? (Not anymore, traded in.) {Come on over to new build thread}

+1 for 5K miles. I rotate mine in a Z pattern.

@LarryDangerfield usually just buys a new vehicle when the tires are due for rotation. This long term ownership thing must be really weird for him.

I do 5K because I pretty much meet every criteria listed in the manual for "special operating conditions."

 

2 SWAYBARS!?

 

Jealous?

 

Easy there champ.


He might make it three.

 

Actually, I'm considering deleting the rear sway bar. But, I need to figure out if the front sway bar will be affected.

 

https://youtu.be/gcgKbUTQJy8?si=8nW28VhzjMcGNsYU

 

I've watched a few of his videos. Not sure if I've seen that one, but it probably doesn't apply to me.

With the regular sway bar setup you're better off deleting the front. But, I have KDSS, which allows full articulation in front, but still limits it in the rear. So, deleting the rear makes the most sense.

What I'm not sure about is whether the hydraulic pistons fight against each other once engaged, or if they're entirely controlled by the accumulator. If they are completely independent, I should be able to delete one without affecting the other. But, if they rely on each other, then I might as well delete both if I delete one.

 

They always have to make things difficult.
That video certainly doesn't apply to me. I stumbled upon it when I was looking at deleting my swaybar.
He runs through the articulation of removing one the other or both.

 

Yeah, IIRC, the front removed only was the winner. But, I have much thicker sway bars that partially disengage at low speed.

 

KDSS they are linked and work together. The fluid transfers back and forth.

 

Everyone is worried about losing articulation but also needs a lift which also loses wheel travel..

 

I wish I'd gone with the 3" aftermarket sway bar instead of the 2" OEM one.

 

That's.... Backwards

This

I can assure you, the physics absolutely applies to you. But being in a taco, no rear sway bar = much more fun. Take the front off for maximum fun

Bruh, don't tell them that lift doesn't allow fitment of larger tires

@Thatbassguy I can see the concern with kdss. As mentioned by @Shellshock it's all or nothing.

If you do remove it all, putting a standard sway bar on the rear isn't too complicated.

Or, my personal vote would be to leave it since the kdss system is kinda cool.

However, if you have it paired with the xreas shocks, you can delete those mofos the second they start to leak.

 

I thought I had read that they're independent of each other, at least when they are in low speed mode. The question is whether they fight each other above 12 mph, or are controlled entirely by the accumulator.

There have been a few different versions. I think the original version might not have had an electronic accumulator, and was completely hydraulic as you're describing.

Lift doesn't necessarily reduce travel. It just trades down travel for up travel. That's why I kept mine moderate.

Spring spacer lifts reduce travel.

 

Once again, I have KDSS.

 

Yeah yeah, flexing on us poors...

 

Which was covered in the rest of my post






Still backwards

 

I have to tell people this constantly. Trimming, alignment, and proper wheel offset clear tires.

Again, the system on the 4Runner is controlled by an electronic accumulator. At low speeds, the sway bars are said to operate completely independent of one another. What I'm not certain about is whether or not they fight each other or are controlled by the accumulator once you get above 12 mph.

But, I'm pretty sure nobody on this forum is 100% certain of that either way.

As far as putting the standard sway bar on the rear, I would need to weld on the mounting brackets, as my frame does not have them.

It's very cool, until it becomes a limitation.

KDSS and X-REAS have never both been on the same model. Edit: same trim.

 

Still incorrect. KDSS allows full articulation of the front axle. If I were able to delete only one sway bar, it would make more sense to delete the rear one. Watch tinkerer's video on KDSS if you don't understand.