New Toyo Open Country A/T III tire

Based on the spec of the door sticker, 33 is overinflated for that size.

 

It's why I'll be keeping a close eye on it.

 

Why not take the stock spec, put it in the calculator and adjust to the matching pressure that spits out? It will take a long time before the effects of slight over-inflation will show up.

 

What calculator? Is there a thing online that I'm not ware of?

We have many cars come into the shop. The ones with air pressures matching the door decal are always underinflated (wear pattern). +5 pounds seems to be the sweet spot. Yes I know that temp plays a part.

 

I’m more so asking if people here are rebuying this tire as they wear out or now that the tires been out for a while and we’ve seen how long they generally last are there better options that offer just as smooth of a ride but last longer. I understand that the SLs wear faster than an LT but the ride is super smooth. I guess in short those of you that have the SL version rebuying these as they wear out or not impressed with the life of the tire and moving onto something else?

 

There’s an online calculator here. The only thing is you have to pay attention to P vs non-P when talking about metrics. I’ve never ended up under inflated by following a stock spec (adjusted), if anything I’ve always still been over inflated because typically the door sticker is meant to account for the full GVWR and then some extra due to dynamic loading from bumps and such at speed.

This is just a guess based on the appearance of your truck and it being a regular cab, but if you had P245/75R16 @ 30 psi on the door sticker, then your adjusted pressure for 265/75R16 would be 26 psi.

I’m running 27 psi on my 3rd gen and they have been solid as a rock, and wearing properly. 27 seemed low at first but it works well so far. I’m trying to keep the pressure as close to correct as I can because I want to see if it gets me further than the typical 30K life everybody else seems to get out of SL Toyos.

 

I see. That’s a tough one because while other tires may last longer, the Toyos are very smooth/comfortable and have good traction and other qualities. So it’s a trade off. I’d buy them again but I’d probably go LT. I used to waffle back and forth between SL and LT in my head but SL wasn’t as confirmed to wear down quickly back then. It’s pretty much confirmed now by multiple recent inputs, so I’ll probably be switching. I still prefer an LT Toyo (I had one set) over other brands because the LT are still smooth, just stiffer.

The KO3 does have my attention some though, namely the stock size in load D LT which will be put in February. The improvements made to the KO3 have me interested over the KO2 which I did not like. Based on the amount I drive, I will be ready for tires sometime around February to May next year. So that would line me up for
the stock size KO3.

 

You gunna go with these again? I’m in the exact position as you on my set.except for I’m now at 3/32nds on all 4.

 

P-265/70/R17. PSI has been a little inconsistent over the 3 years. Anywhere from 34-31 cold. Currently at 31 cold. Mine are approaching 3 years and 53,000km (33,000 miles). Some small amount of dry rot in between the tread. Rotated infrequently as it’s extra cost with the oil change. As of one month ago, I’m sitting at 7/32nds on the most worn tire. 8/32nds on the rest. I’m hoping to get one more year out of them. I’m noticing they are starting to get a little louder as they continue to wear rolling down the highway. I think they were 13/32nds when new.

Just had them up to 140 Km/h (87 MPH) briefly the other day with no one around and they were very smooth for their age and wear.

As @BLtheP has mentioned. The SL or P rated tire are a smooth, comfortable and forgiving A/T tire. Despite a bit of neglect they are wearing fairly evenly. Been great in the snow and rain here in the PNW. Light off roading has been great as well. Mainly a daily driver and performance has been very good overall with my shitty city commute. Equally, with long road trips. Just did a 6,000 mile road trip this summer. Not one issue.

Want to get through this winter and replace before next winter giving me one year. First A/T tire I’ve ever owned. This is after about 30 years of running Michelin Defenders. They were always awesome.

Would I buy these again? Yes, if I were to keep A/T’s. love the looks and overall performance.

Having said that, I’m interested in the new Yokohama Geolaladers G018/AT4’s, KO’3’s
And Falken Wildpeak AT4w’s.

Tire weight, wet traction, pricing and 3 peak mountain rating are prime considerations for me. 3PMR are mandatory for our mountain passes here. However, from what I heard 3PMR are just marketing and don’t really mean nothing more than a pinch of coon shit.

I have to say though, these Toyo Open Country ATIII’s have been easy to live with so far. I’m also seeing them more and more around my neck of the woods.

We shall see in one year.

Edit: if you look in my sig you will see my Fuelly MPG's. Currently getting 13.9 L/100km or 16.9 mpg. Not great but lots of city driving and short trips unfortunately.

 

How are these wearing? Any significant updates?

 

I’m at 11K on them, last I checked they were around 9-10/32. I’m expecting 30-35K.

 

I ended up going with Maxxis Razr AT in a P285-70-17. I did the chop, and had an alignment done at a good shop so no rubbing. I've had them over the summer camping season and put plenty of miles on them. They weigh about 43 pounds which is only a couple more pounds than the 265-70-17 Toyo while retaining the 3 peak rating. The Maxxis look a bit more aggressive but are also a bit louder compared to the very quiet Toyos. So far the limited wet use seems equivalent, but the winter will tell. For very similar spec tires the price is fairly different right now. SimpleTire has the Maxxis at $199 each (I caught a sale for $167) and the Toyo at $290. If I'm going to be changing out an AT tire every 30-35k miles I'm going to be a bit price sensitive.

In the end, I don't regret the Toyo AT3. I'm not sure at the current price point the value is there. We'll see if I end up regretting moving away as we get into the rainy season.

 

Just got these installed a few days ago. So far I really like them. Coming from Cooper ST Maxx, they are so much quieter and very smooth. They have a soft but planted feel to them. I didn’t mind the Coopers, they wore like iron (got 70k plus miles out of them), but these are the same size/rating and are 5lbs lighter per tire.


* LT265/75R16 E load.

 

@BLtheP

• All non-LT have a mild sidewall - (some seem to look a bit less mild than others)
• LT have the potential to have an aggressive sidewall
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• To help clarify the SL have the most timid sidewall. The lugs on the design of the sidewall on the SL are practically Non Existent, it’s very slight.
  
• The sidewall, “amount of rubber” on the sidewall lugs, and overall aggressiveness of the sidewall is the same on ALL standard LT models C and E 265,275,285 etc with the exception of the “floatation models” 30 x , 35 x , etc.
• there is no variation in the sidewall in the LTs except with the floatation models. They have the MOST aggressive sidewall.
  
• SL - sidewall design lil to no sidewall lugs
• Standard LT C and E loads aggressive sides wall design.
  
• LT floatation models more rubber and have the most aggressive sidewall.

 

Is anyone with E or LT getting more than 30k out of a set?

 

I agree with most of what you said but not these two points. They depend on wheel size. 15’s and 16’s have very mild sidewalls on LT metric and LT high flotation. What you said about LTs applies in my experience to all wheels 17” and above.

LT265/75R16 E (mild)



30X9.50R15LT (mild)



31X10.50R15LT (mild)



LT255/75R17 C (aggressive)

 

There was a guy a little while back who had something like 70-80K on a set. I’m sure most LTs last far longer than 30K, but people get bored and change it up, or sell the truck, or whatever else. A lot of people are just driving and not coming back to share their experience here.

I had 16K on my 255/75s and they still had plenty of tread left to get me past 30K. Still had like 10.5-11.5/32.

 

I had the E load 255/80/R17 and got 51k on mine. Could’ve kept them longer but had the replacement set of the R/T Trails in the garage and couldn’t wait longer to put them on

 

They really dropped the ball on these by not giving all the sizes a more aggressive side wall

 

@BLtheP that is odd. I wouldn’t even think to consider that. From experience I’m only speaking about the 285/70/17 and larger floatation tires based on all of the photos I’ve seen. The rep from Toyo confirmed this but never said anything about the smaller tires lacking any bite.

i got a set of SLs in my house right now 285. I’m returning them today for a set of the 285 Cs. Expecting a different look.