Fun truck for 2 weeks !!!!

Not my story to tell, but I got a text......
Theyre buying the truck back & took 4 working days to get an approval!!!
Good news!

 

That truck was a complete disaster. Toyota will probably haul it off and look carefully at the engine if the dealer didn’t screw it up too badly.

 

That is good news! Have you decided what you’re going to do next? I wouldn’t blame you if you decided you didn’t want another 4G Tacoma after having your engine turn into a paperweight so early.

 

Yup, but not a whole lot to analyze though.
The story is all in the source of the oil leak, not the catastrophic failure.
That’s not what will happen, though, I’ve had a lot of scenarios over the years, customers get rolled out of a vehicle and into something else due to lemon law, technician still has to repair the vehicle & put it back together correctly….
Once the parts do come in, it will be sold as a used unit…
With proper disclosures, maybe…

just got crazy lucky that it only took a few days. Will still take about three weeks to a month for all the paperwork, and the 3rd party transaction company to come out and finalize everything, give him a check…

 

I listen to a podcast run by an attorney who specializes in lemon law in Michigan. One of the things I’ve learned is that a great many of the cars bought back from lemon law cases end up back in the stream of commerce. Many states require a title to be branded when a lemon buyback is resold so a potential buyer will know, but not all do. It’s not a big deal for somebody to send it to another state without title branding, retitle it, and send it on its merry way without a word about its history.

Hopefully that won’t happen, but it can and sometimes does.

 

Yeah, I get that..
Would imagine theres also some sort of cheat the mfr. utilizes to not do that & still return a high profit on a resale.
Im curious now & going to text my old manager, he will know, not at 4am though....
I would imagine there a work around...
Imagine they have to buy back a $40-$50 vehicle for simple issues like my paint concern, doesnt effect longevity, reliability, performance, or the drivetrain for that matter...
They second they put a branded title on the vehicle, it loses all warranties on EVERY component & every system, even the powertrain & emissions...
So whos going to buy a practically brand new $50k truck w/o any warranty?
Even at a steep discount, thats a hard sell,
Well, atleast it should be, if the consumer is rational..

 

Title washing is a common thing and has been used frequently to move vehicles that were flood damaged on the dealer's lot towards an unsuspecting interior state.

For totalled cars I know its illegal as hell. I do not know what the law says about title washing a lemoned car. I would speculate its also illegal. But since the point of it (like money laundering) is to erase tracks in the snow, that makes it a fairly difficult activity to track.

 

Not that I am a fan but seems CarFax would capture the "lemoned" vehicles. If not, I see this as an opportunity for some company to capture prior owner to VIN for history ($$ for info from prior owner).

 

I imagine that many of these cars go to auction and the dealer just writes off their loss therefore making money .

 

Theyre are all resold at the dealer. May not be at the dealer where originally purchased, they may go to a dealer that gets all buy-backs...
So just spoke to my previous manager & heres his experience....
lemon Law buy-backs that get repaired, DO NOT get a branded title or lose their original warranty at any level.
The repair gets fully disclosed, sold as a used vehicle, everyone moves on....

That makes sense to me....
Cant imagine mfr having to void warranty & give it a branded title due to chicken shit buyback complaints like my paint or otherwise....
That would kill the resale value of the truck & they would be less incline to help...

 

The thing with a lemon law buyback is that the point is to get the manufacturer to buy back a vehicle that has been declared “unfixable.” If it could be fixed, the manufacturer would have done it. It doesn’t kill the resale value of vehicles in general, but it would kill it for that particular one. Which it should! If it has a problem that can’t be fixed, it should be worth considerably less. There shouldn’t be “chickenshit” buybacks; that’s why the laws generally include a certain number of attempts to resolve a particular issue and why most of them require you to send the manufacturer a letter informing your intent to initiate a suit to force them to buy it back and give them one last chance to repair it. Further, it’s not about “helping you out.” The manufacturer is forced to do it via a judgement when they lose that lawsuit. Sure, sometimes they decide to settle with you in some way outside of court — maybe because they’re trying to do the right thing by you or maybe because they see no way they could win that suit and see no point spending the money on the process — but it’s not something they’d normally do. They’d rather just keep trying to repair it indefinitely until your warranty contract ages out and you go away. That’s almost always cheaper.

The point is, they take the car back and unwind the transaction because they’re forced to. Lemon laws just provide a streamlined and enumerated process to do it.

 

Not trying to argue here, but I’d have to disagree, a lot of untrue statements in this post.
You can file and get approved for a lemon law for most multiple reasons, does not need to be deemed unfixable as you stated….
Number one just like the OP situation, in the shop for a repair for over 30 days on a newer vehicle.
Number two, 2 to 3 repair attempts or complaints for the same concern.
In this situation, they don’t even have to attempt to repair the vehicle, if you dropped it off for the same concern twice, and they documented it as no problem found, that in itself is enough for you to qualify

 

The specifics — number of attempts, what defines an “attempt,” number of days out of service, etc — vary from state to state. But, generally, a lemon law claim happens as a lawsuit. You sue the manufacturer under the particular statute. If it goes all the way to court, a judge decides what happens and issues a judgement. In my state, for instance, the judgement would say that the manufacturer takes possession of the vehicle, the purchase agreement for it is unwound (you are paid for what the vehicle cost you when you bought it minus a pro rata for usage, based on a schedule, and any considerations you made like trade-ins), and for attorneys’ fees. Essentially, the vehicle goes away and you’re (financially) reset to the state you were before you bought it.

What you seem to be describing here is that process being short circuited. You told the manufacturer you intended to file a Lemon Law suit and they responded by agreeing to buy the vehicle back. You essentially settled out of court.

It’s true that I’m not a lawyer, but I’ve paid attention to this subject for a number of years. I can even get my book on it out if you want. I feel pretty confident talking on the subject.

 

Hope they put an LS into that Bich

 

I bought a '98 Dodge 4x4 360 V8 pickup years ago that had been a buyback at the dealership where I got it due to some engine issues. It was fully disclosed what the history had been, and I knew what I was buying. The dealership included a warranty that put my mind at ease. The reason I bought it was I thought I wanted a full sized truck again, and the trade I had had it's own issues. Both parties were happy at the end of the transaction, and I had no mechanical issues while I owned it. I sold that truck a few years later, and again, full disclosure was made to the buyer, and they didn't blink an eye.

Buybacks don't necessarily end up in the scrap heap.

 

You file for arbitration within the lemon law guidelines directly through the manufacturer, if it’s a straightforward situation, it’s streamline, they don’t have to pay your attorney fees so they see it as a bonus, one and done….,
All or most manufacturers have a dedicated department..

my comments were simply to make them aware that I know what I’m doing, and I am not screwing around…
There’s another individual in my paint thread that filed due to his orange peeled texture on his black fender flares on his limited 24.
He was also approved for buy back using my hoop jumping process.
Not really my process, I just know it exists and procedures since I’ve recently gone through it, every hurdle is fresh in my mind…
I even got them to wave all usage, wear & tear / mileage fees, I was made completely whole. Even mod costs were refunded.

 

From my experience working at 2 different Ford dealerships here in San Diego, Do all your own research and NEVER trust what the dealer tells you.

 

Jerry, this is Rob....
If I remember correctly, both worked for bubba at one point....
Or were you in "customer service" at the time, I dont remember, long time ago...

 

I can guarantee you the Ford Fiesta that I lemon law’d in Florida over a decade ago made it back into the marketplace.

and that my personal experience with lemon law is that they did not refund the full price of the vehicle but fucked me over for wear and tear for about $1500 for the time I was not driving the vehicle because it was sitting in the dealer shop.

 

Yea buba would whip us with a hose or make us put a potato in our mouth and punch us in the arm.. Ahhh good times.