New England B.S. Thread

ABA180 · Oct 27, 2024

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Called in a possible drunk driver tonight - first time doing that. Noticed headlights kept appearing and disappearing in my side view mirror. Someone was swerving back and forth rapidly behind me, but close enough where I couldn't see their lights until they started swerving. A little while later, they went out into the oncoming traffic lane, but didn't speed up at all, so it wasn't like they were going to pass. Stayed there for 5-10 seconds then moved back over.

I puled over and let him go by when I had the next chance, then grabbed the plate number and followed from a distance for a few more miles. Initially, they seemed okay, but as soon as they got behind someone else they started drifting back and forth again.

I'm not sure if they were drunk or just aggressive, but I figured better to report it than to have them swerve into oncoming traffic and kill or injure someone. I called the town PD and within 2 minutes they whipped out in front of me and pulled them over. Then, I saw a second cruiser change course and put their lights on headed in that direction. They couldn't have observed anything because they lit their blues the instant they saw the vehicle. I didn't think PD could pull them over just based on a call, but maybe they ran the plate and something else came up that gave them justification.
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That they can. I've done this before. Car in front of me was drifting to the point of at least stradding the middle marker, and once got in the other side totally.

Turd Ferguson · Oct 27, 2024

js312 said: ↑

Called in a possible drunk driver tonight - first time doing that. Noticed headlights kept appearing and disappearing in my side view mirror. Someone was swerving back and forth rapidly behind me, but close enough where I couldn't see their lights until they started swerving. A little while later, they went out into the oncoming traffic lane, but didn't speed up at all, so it wasn't like they were going to pass. Stayed there for 5-10 seconds then moved back over.

I puled over and let him go by when I had the next chance, then grabbed the plate number and followed from a distance for a few more miles. Initially, they seemed okay, but as soon as they got behind someone else they started drifting back and forth again.

I'm not sure if they were drunk or just aggressive, but I figured better to report it than to have them swerve into oncoming traffic and kill or injure someone. I called the town PD and within 2 minutes they whipped out in front of me and pulled them over. Then, I saw a second cruiser change course and put their lights on headed in that direction. They couldn't have observed anything because they lit their blues the instant they saw the vehicle. I didn't think PD could pull them over just based on a call, but maybe they ran the plate and something else came up that gave them justification.
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It’s nice to hear the police responded quickly.

TacoTuesday603 · Oct 28, 2024

This was a cool read, I'll only use DOM.

traxman25 said: ↑

Rock Slider and Roll Cage Tubing Comparison and Torture Test
HREW vs. DOM vs. Square Tube all Made In The USA

At 4x Innovations we want our customers to get the most value for their money and we are always checking to ensure that they are. In an effort to ensure this we have tested two of our most popular materials, 1-3/4" Hot Rolled Electrically Welded (HREW) and 1-3/4" Drawn Over Mandrel (DOM) tubing. There are been articles circulating the web that claim HREW tubing is just as strong as DOM tubing and therefore is unnecessary and even a waste to spend premium dollars on DOM for your next cage, sliders, or bumper. Unfortunately, this is information is misleading because of the test parameters and the materials that were tested. The HREW material in those test came from a trusted US steel distributor whereas the competing DOM material is a low quality offshore material. The standards of manufacturing differ greatly resulting in different material properties and a lower quality product. At 4x Innovations we only use high quality Made in the USA steel tubing (melted and rolled), which delivers a much more reliable, consistent, and superior product.

The setup:

For this testing we used laboratory grade equipment located in the University of Wisconsin Platteville's material testing lab. Two tests were performed to determine the strength of each tube sample; a load test and a Rockwell B hardness test.

Since the test cross sectional area is constantly changing during this test it is not possible to create a true
stress-strain curve for a tube in compression loading. Because of this the true testing stress is not able to be calculated for the tube and a load force vs. displacement graph is the only option to display the data. To create these curves a MTS Criterion, figure 1, universal testing machine (UTM) was used to crush the tubes to 0.4" (10mm) of displacement. The 4 inch long sample pieces were tack welded to a plate for safety reasons and two parallels were placed on the top of the sample and on the bottom to distribute the load to the cross head, figure 2.

We wanted to collect the hardness data from the exterior of the tube where it will be exposed to weather, rocks, and any other forms of torment that a real world application would produce. To ensure the part would not deflect under the load of the machine a machined insert was put into the tube being tested, figure 3. This results in a very accurate hardness rating of the outside of the tube by keeping the tube from deflecting. Rockwell B hardness was used for collecting this data and the testing was done on a ROCKY series machine.

The test:

Specimens for the crush test were loaded into the machine all in the same orientation and the test was executed. The load cell collects data on the load vs. the displacement of the crosshead as the test takes place and displays it on the computer display, figure 4.

Needless to say the results were very impressive. The DOM tubing was the clear winner with a maximum sustained load of 6688 pounds-force being applied. This is compared to the HREW material which produced a maximum sustained load of 4239 pounds-force. It was interesting to see that seam placement with the HREW samples made a difference of about 210 lbf.
The max force is not always the most useful comparison unfortunately, instead the point at which permanent deformation starts to occur should be used to compare these samples. In the case of the DOM tubing it occurs at approximately 5000 pounds of force and for the HREW around 3000 pounds, figure 5. This means that the DOM tubing is 66% more resistant to permanent deflection due to a static load than its HREW counterpart. :thumb3:

Similar amounts of spring back were seen in the tested samples regardless of the extreme difference in the forces needed to crush them. As seen in figures 6 (DOM) and 7 (HREW) tubing demonstrated classic tube yielding mechanics.

Figure 6 - DOM Tube deformation.

Figure 7 - HREW Tube deformation.

The hardness test demonstrated a similar trend of results with respect to the crush test. The Rockwell B hardness for the DOM was approximately 84, where the hardness for the HREW samples exhibited an approximate average of about 66,

The verdict:

If you are an explorer checking out fire roads, wooded adventures, driving the typical class 1-3 type trails and run a fairly light truck who needs basic protection from trees, stumps, or the occasional rock HREW might be perfectly suitable for your application. If you are getting into the class 4-5 trails, trails with a lot of rocks and drops, or into expedition and weeklong camping, running a heavier truck you should probably upgrade to the DOM tubing. The added strength of DOM, 66%, will really shine when you "test" your cage or slam your sliders hard on the rocks.

Real world test:

In addition to our egg-head style laboratory tests we conducted some, scientific but, more practical tests on the sliders. We had a 1996 4Runner that we added the three types of rock sliders we offer to; HREW, DOM, and Square Main Tube with DOM outer tube. We then dropped the truck onto a large boulder from varying heights and positions on the rock slider. A video of this test and the results can be found here.

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GarlicFarts · Oct 28, 2024

Merling said: ↑

yes that’s a free bucket.

anyone got a favorite recipe? Some guy from Beverly said he likes his with just a little butter and.. it’s not my cup of tea.

Thinking some sort of lemon soy sauce based marinade
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InCogNeatOh Parts · Oct 28, 2024

TacoTuesday603 said: ↑

This was a cool read, I'll only use DOM.
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After watching their videos, it was easy to order their sliders for the runner.

TacoTuesday603 · Oct 28, 2024

InCogNeatOh Parts said: ↑

After watching their videos, it was easy to order their sliders for the runner.
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I dont even know who made mine but they work. I gotta lift it a to get a little more belly clearance

https://youtube.com/shorts/HLncWxro_U4?feature=share

InCogNeatOh Parts · Oct 28, 2024

TacoTuesday603 said: ↑

I dont even know who made mine but they work. I gotta lift it a to get a little more belly clearance

https://youtube.com/shorts/HLncWxro_U4?feature=share
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That’s using them and putting them away smoking.

Merling · Oct 28, 2024

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Ended up smoking em. My goodness. I’ll have to try to get some more this weekend

super_white · Oct 29, 2024

Anybody mess around with retro PC's or PC gaming?

I have a Viewsonic 17" CRT display that I need to get rid of. The model number is E70B.

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E168241...pUD3qnZhA2NSFLNOVYCALmllzDJP4OhEsez-KrNlkynDQ

crashngiggles · Oct 29, 2024

super_white said: ↑

Anybody mess around with retro PC's or PC gaming?

I have a Viewsonic 17" CRT display that I need to get rid of. The model number is E70B.

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E168241...pUD3qnZhA2NSFLNOVYCALmllzDJP4OhEsez-KrNlkynDQ
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Wow, I haven't seen one of those in years!!! Not since tigerdirect was still around

super_white · Oct 30, 2024

crashngiggles said: ↑

Wow, I haven't seen one of those in years!!! Not since tigerdirect was still around
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Free to a good home.

CTSpruceMica · Oct 30, 2024

super_white said: ↑

Anybody mess around with retro PC's or PC gaming?

I have a Viewsonic 17" CRT display that I need to get rid of. The model number is E70B.

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E168241...pUD3qnZhA2NSFLNOVYCALmllzDJP4OhEsez-KrNlkynDQ
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crashngiggles said: ↑

Wow, I haven't seen one of those in years!!! Not since tigerdirect was still around
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emelianenkov · Oct 31, 2024

How’s it going everyone!? Wife and I just got to our new house

tacobell007 · Oct 31, 2024

emelianenkov said: ↑

How’s it going everyone!? Wife and I just got to our new house

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Damn man! Where did you move to??

uurx · Oct 31, 2024

emelianenkov said: ↑

How’s it going everyone!? Wife and I just got to our new house

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where ya move to?

AllTacosFloat · Oct 31, 2024

I’m guessing not Florida

emelianenkov · Oct 31, 2024

tacobell007 said: ↑

Damn man! Where did you move to??
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uurx said: ↑

where ya move to?
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Phoenix area, but in the sticks (or tumbleweeds?). It’s awesome out here!

mach1man001 · Oct 31, 2024

emelianenkov said: ↑

How’s it going everyone!? Wife and I just got to our new house

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Hello Elf. How have you been? Married huh??? New house, nice!

BTW, Your name just came up in a conversation I just had with Jared.

mach1man001 · Oct 31, 2024

I just wanted to remind everyone to be on the lookout for the Toy's for Tots thread coming soon. It should be great as Jared and I have been tossing around some awesome ideas!!! So keep and eye out.

tacobell007 · Oct 31, 2024

emelianenkov said: ↑

Phoenix area, but in the sticks (or tumbleweeds?). It’s awesome out here!

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Nice! I was thinking it was Arizona

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