CV Axle snapped @ 8k miles

They designed the 4th Gen with built in high lift jacking points, they changed the location of the cab mounts to accommodate larger tire diameters, they made the whole truck modular in design with off roading and modifications in mind specifically. Toyota isnt dumb, they know what the Tacoma is used for. Just look at the Trail Hunter edition. While this particular incident may not be on Toyota, it doesn't let them off the hook for what's obviously a shortcoming on a truck they KNOW is going to be modified and lifted.

 

Well, if you say this incident isn't on Toyota, its safe to say by definition, they're off the hook for this one.

 

I think Toyota is directly responsible by not putting in their manual that you cant use reverse in a lifted tacoma

They couldve at least written in the manual that if you are going to lift the truck, you need to have these CV's replaced and then made them available.

Or simply said NOT to lift the damn thing!

But they just showcased all of these new offroad features and even dangled the idea that they would be providing the aftermarket parts to do it OEM

They are the ones holding FOX and Bilstien up from selling the quality equipment that OP wouldve bought if they hadnt made it unavailable

It is a thin argument, but most lawsuits usually are

 

Nope. You're still on the hook if you modify the vehicle and cause damage, even if Toyota made it easier to modify. Gotta pay to play.

And the Trail Hunter has the upper-trim CV axles different from the TRD Sport. In a way the OP modified a pavement princess trim for off-road use.

 

Its not, BUT the fact toyota knows their buyer base and the fact they lift their trucks from the factory they should of designed it with this in mind. This was NOT an issue on previous generations of trucks. You could literally droop / compress the suspension out to mechanical limit of the ball joints of the factory lower with aftermarket UCA well beyond what any shock travel can do and dont have CV popping out issues.

 

Eh, my bikes are 40 yrs old or more and they still work.

 

We just need some you tubers to get the word out that you cant lift the 4g Toyota Tacoma 3" or it'll break!

Who wouldve thunk? The trolls will be so happy!

 

Sure, and Mason should be held liable for injuries incurred when idiots decide to shove a mason jar up their ass and it shatters...

Companies shouldn't have to say "don't eat tide pods" or "don't shove this up your ass" or "don't cry when your aftermarket parts break something and Toyota doesn't warranty it." When you use things outside of their intended purpose or modify them, the manufacturer has every right to deny your claims.

 

Intended purpose is whats up for debate.

Pregnant woman in California should not eat this newspaper!

 

That's because the designers of aftermarket shocks limited droop travel to a point before the CV binds. If they didn't do that, we (2nd/3rd gen owners) would be blowing CV joints weekly and be forced to install limit straps. This may be Icon's fault, or the OP's fault for not installing the full kit or a wrong SKU.

 

Toyota doesn't intend for buyers to install Icon suspension. If they did, they'd be made available and offered as OEM. You already said it yourself:

The parts they intend for you to use are offered OEM. They'll happily provide warranty work on them because they spent the money on the engineering to ensure it works. There's no debate; OEM is intended. Aftermarket is aftermarket.

 

or maybe when you install the lift from the manufacturer of the lift, you should install the differential drop that they say is required with this kit.

 

You have completely missed the point. Both third and fourth need other things done to them when you lift them. The OP found out the hard way. The factory lifted Tacoma‘s have different CV axles than his sport does.

 

I get that aftermarket is aftermarket and voiding warranties and all that.

My contention is that they have yet to make the parts they intended us to use OEM available.

They said this TRD lift would be available and it isnt. They said you could get a ARB bumper and you cant.

They said they made this new Gen with offroaders in mind and if you lift it, it will break.

I do believe the OP shares liability in his problem by continuing to drive after the break but if Toyota wouldve did all the things they said they were doing like making that stuff available, then he wouldve at least had the option to use reverse and not break a properly lifted truck.

At the very least since they designed it, they couldve made it known that it would break

2.5" isnt very high

 

I guess I missed the parts where they were selling trucks with no suspension components. No wonder they're all breaking

Kidding, kinda..
I understand the point you're trying to make. But this isn't the first year a truck was invented, sold, or didn't come with the parts you wished it would. Its why aftermarket exists. Modifying them to meet your needs comes with consequences sometimes (such as breaking parts that weren't intended for lifted applications).

 

It can be if you're unlucky. I constantly flip my truck in & out of 4wd in the Canadian winters especially to make turns on cleared intersections. One of the wheels has to slip otherwise something breaks cause the front wheels and rear wheels travel different distances when taking turns.

 

Theres a difference between parts I wish they would make and parts they said they would be making available.

Basically this whole thread just says that I bought an offroad truck that will break CV's if its lifted 2.5"

I bet you can get Fox shocks for a Frontier and it wont break w a 3" lift.

Can we even buy CV's for this truck?

Whats the part # for the CV's that dont break w 2.5" of lift?

I bet there isnt one.

Its like Smith and Wesson brought out a new gun that nobody can get bullets for

 

This is why you should back into parking spots, not out of them...

 

What you are missing is Icon’s website says that lift requires a diff drop. The real question is if he installed one.

 

Not sure it’s available for the 4th gen but Toyota offered a factory lift( more of a slight lift level) but it is covered under full warranty if the dealer installed it. If you put any aftermarket parts on any make or model the effected parts will NOT be warrantied period. If you put wider wheels with more offset and your bearings fail, put a lift on and your cab drop out, install nos and your motor blows etc etc.
This has been fact for years and years regardless of the make. I think it’s ridiculous that anyone would expect it to be covered…..