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ECGS Bushing Replacement

Discussion in 'General Tacoma Talk' started by byebyebhg, Dec 7, 2024.

  1. Dec 7, 2024 at 6:43 AM
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    Am I the first person to ever need to replace the ECGS bushing with another ECGS bushing?
    Mine is worn out to the point it’s acting like a worn factory needle bearing.
    The ECGS tool will not fit behind the bushing to allow its removal.
    All my conventional pullers are designed to push on a center point to pull whatever you’re trying to remove, and that won’t work in this situation.
    Anybody have any suggestions as to how to pull this thing out?

    Thank you in advance for any suggestions you might have!
     
  2. Dec 7, 2024 at 6:59 AM
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    Not I but maybe @Superdave1.0 has? I can’t remember reading any threads where the bushing itself was replaced.
     
  3. Dec 7, 2024 at 7:28 AM
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    I would have verified it's actually worn out by measuring the inside diameter somehow. Your truck is a 2022? Never heard of one going bad. I've installed several dozen of them.

    A blind hole puller will be your only option really. That or cut it out.

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  4. Dec 7, 2024 at 8:46 AM
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    I have three Tacomas
    This is in my 3xx,xxx mile ‘13

    As the bushing is where most all of the support comes from, and the CV shows no sign of wear, it just about has to be the bushing right?
    I’ll grab one of these pullers and try it, they’re definitely cheap enough and more tools is always more better

    Thank you!
     
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    Noise goes away in 4wd? I’m surprised there is no wear on the cv axle
    Ecgs says like 500k lifespan I think, but sure, it could wear out earlier. Can you feel any wear on the bushing?

    Front wheel bearing age/mileage?
     
  6. Dec 7, 2024 at 9:50 AM
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    The problem actually happens only in 4wd, which is the opposite of what often happens with a bad needle bearing
    It is the same feeling of play though at the inboard CV
    I was surprised to see no wear on the CV as well
    It isn’t the wheel bearing
    I actually replaced that as well because the Dormans usually only last me around 30K and it was bad too
    I don’t believe the wheel bearing would be affected an awful lot by the 2wd/4wd switch either
     
  7. Dec 7, 2024 at 10:17 AM
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    I would definitely do more diagnosis before assuming it's the ecgs bushing. I would not think that's the problem if you are having a noise in 4wd.

    Tug on the passenger side cv axle, where it enters the diff. Does it have a similar amount of play as driver side?
     
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    Yeah, I’m fairly sure that the bushing and cv are rotating at the same speed when in 4wd, so I don’t know how it could be the bushing
    When in 4wd, the bushing rotates inside of the larger bearing at tire/cv rotational speed, which is why the noise goes away in 4wd
     
  9. Dec 7, 2024 at 10:38 AM
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    Very little play on the passenger side.
    No noise whatsoever.
    At highway speeds in 4wd, and especially with the slightest amount of steering input, it tugs the steering wheel.
    “You’re not supposed to be in 4wd at highway speeds” - yeah yeah
    I am very familiar with how and why these things work the way that they do and when and how 4wd feels - this is not because of the difference in wheel speed.
    There absolutely is excess play at the inboard CV on the drivers side.
    The ECGS bushing was installed by someone other than myself, it appears to be inserted just a little too far.
    This could have caused accelerated wear of the bronze bushing, which could potentially wear without wearing on the much harder CV shaft ‍♂️
     
  10. Dec 7, 2024 at 10:48 AM
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    It should sit flush with the diff opening. The ecgs install tool ensures that it is driven exactly flush with the opening. If they used the install tool, it's impossible to drive it in too far.
     
  11. Dec 7, 2024 at 2:50 PM
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    Agreed, this is why I fear the excessive wear to be a possibility
    I have the tool and know how to use it
    I highly doubt they did lol
     
  12. Dec 7, 2024 at 6:16 PM
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    Can you upload some photos of the diff opening with cv axle removed?
     
  13. Dec 9, 2024 at 6:38 AM
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    I had to throw it back together and get it out of the garage unfortunately
     

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