1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Full Circle SAS

Discussion in '1st Gen. Builds (1995-2004)' started by Chadr7858, Dec 1, 2024.

  1. Dec 1, 2024 at 8:26 PM
    #1
    Chadr7858

    Chadr7858 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2014
    Member:
    #131908
    Messages:
    1,913
    First Name:
    Chad
    Colorado
    Vehicle:
    19 TRD SHIT BOX, 02 BEST GEN
    All the mods; all the problems
    The title of my build goes way back to how I should of done this build to start with years ago instead of building a third gen, dumping a ton of money into that, just to decommission it from the rock crawler life in order to build Darby the 2002 Tacoma. Myself and my buddies always knew that this would be the fate for my wheeling endeavors... This build thread will be lacking pictures because I tend to live in the moment and I don't take many photos of things.

    Anyway lets get to it.

    Darby came into my life from Jackson WY in April of 2024. 242,000 miles 1st gen supercharger has been on it its entire life. The owner owned the truck since 2004, he was selling it for his wedding (bummer). Picked it up for 6k and drove it back to Denver in limp mode due to a bad knock sensor. The truck was bone stock and was desperately needing some maintenance.

    I went ahead and did the timing belt, rebuilt the supercharger, and immediately slapped some chevy 63s in the rear and 5100s in the front and some 35x10.5s on it to wheel it for the summer. Of course I had to build some sliders and a front costal bumper as well.
    pre sas 1.jpg

    After the season closer Moab trip it was decision time. I had already bought a Waggy axle to sas this thing over the summer but did I really want to commit my winter to endless metal dust and grinding? Well based on where we are now I guess I did.

    Tear down.jpg

    Tore everything down.

    ground down.jpg

    Plasma cut and sawzalled off all the stuff... Make sure to leave a crossmember or your frame will spring. Get yourself a beefy grinder and a couple eager friends to do the grind work.

    Now here is where things went off the rails... Like I said earlier I picked up a waggy axle that was built with 4.88s air locker etc. everything I needed axle wise. Well trail mart ended up with a good sale and I said to hell with it "I don't have time to piece the rest of the SAS all together" and ended up buying SAS Kit C which to my surprise also did not come with everything. 6k later and I had a pallet of parts sitting in the street for me. Leave it to trail mart I got some incorrect parts and some extra parts. Anyway...

    I started to get leafs hung and absolutely could not live with how ridiculous the front hanger mount was. I was not going to add 3 inches of lift so I could run the stock pitman arm and not notch the frame so I decided to french the hangers half way up the frame to lower the height of this thing.
    french hangers.jpg

    The truck is still super tall even with this modification.

    With this you have to run a flat pitman arm as high as possible and notch the frame to clear the castle nut.

    frame notch.jpg

    I got the steering settled. The box goes forward as far as possible. The way trail gear makes their leaf ends up swinging the axle back in the wheel well a lot under flex. No issues with the tie rod and drag ling hitting each other.

    I went ahead and pulled apart the leaf packs to fix the centering pins (trail gear built the leafs with the wrong diameter pin) as well as setup shocks and bump stops.

    shock.jpg

    These are bilstein 7100 14" short body shocks. I had them sitting around and they're better than the 5125s that came with the kit. By no means will this get close to stroking 14" but if it fits it ships they say. The only down side is I had to notch the body to clear the resi fitting since bilstein put the fitting at a 45 degree angle.

    That is pretty much where it sits. More photos and details to come.
     
  2. Dec 2, 2024 at 6:42 AM
    #2
    02hilux

    02hilux What do you mean there’s no road, I’m here

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2016
    Member:
    #197244
    Messages:
    6,281
    Planet: EARTH
    Personally, I would get rid of the BL.
     
  3. Dec 2, 2024 at 7:26 AM
    #3
    Chadr7858

    Chadr7858 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2014
    Member:
    #131908
    Messages:
    1,913
    First Name:
    Chad
    Colorado
    Vehicle:
    19 TRD SHIT BOX, 02 BEST GEN
    All the mods; all the problems
    Too late. There are many things setup to utilize the extra inch! Story of my life.
     
  4. Dec 7, 2024 at 12:25 PM
    #4
    Chadr7858

    Chadr7858 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2014
    Member:
    #131908
    Messages:
    1,913
    First Name:
    Chad
    Colorado
    Vehicle:
    19 TRD SHIT BOX, 02 BEST GEN
    All the mods; all the problems
    Down on its 37s

    1000007108.jpg
     
  5. Dec 9, 2024 at 8:41 PM
    #5
    Chadr7858

    Chadr7858 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2014
    Member:
    #131908
    Messages:
    1,913
    First Name:
    Chad
    Colorado
    Vehicle:
    19 TRD SHIT BOX, 02 BEST GEN
    All the mods; all the problems
    Radiator situation is a real bitch with the frenched hangers. Currently the tiny 4 cylinder radiator fits fine, finding a lower radiator hose to fit is a pain.
     
  6. Dec 9, 2024 at 9:03 PM
    #6
    Squeaky Penguin

    Squeaky Penguin Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2012
    Member:
    #76340
    Messages:
    10,069
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Brett
    Steamboat Springs, Colorado
    Vehicle:
    '01 4WD, SR5, TRD & '13 TRDOR AC
    Lots of dust and custom dents, Check Build

    I have one of those for added clearance. I was able to find a joiner for the stock hose and just shorten it in the middle.
     
  7. Dec 9, 2024 at 9:16 PM
    #7
    02hilux

    02hilux What do you mean there’s no road, I’m here

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2016
    Member:
    #197244
    Messages:
    6,281
    Planet: EARTH

    Lower hose: Gates 22120 / Napa 8791
     
  8. Dec 10, 2024 at 4:36 AM
    #8
    Chadr7858

    Chadr7858 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2014
    Member:
    #131908
    Messages:
    1,913
    First Name:
    Chad
    Colorado
    Vehicle:
    19 TRD SHIT BOX, 02 BEST GEN
    All the mods; all the problems
    That's also what I did. I'll order the hose that @02hilux mentioned as well
     
  9. Dec 10, 2024 at 4:46 AM
    #9
    02hilux

    02hilux What do you mean there’s no road, I’m here

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2016
    Member:
    #197244
    Messages:
    6,281
    Planet: EARTH
    the S bend has the correct height except for the length on one side. I think I trimmed ~2” off and fit perfect.

    Work with the Denso 221‐3136 and fit the new KoyoRad VH010513 when I swapped to a full aluminum.

    you should have no issue with the 4cyl radiator. I ran the Denso 221-3136 for years with 40 inch tires and climb grade from 300’ to 8k elevation.
     
    Chadr7858[QUOTED][OP] likes this.
  10. Dec 10, 2024 at 5:17 AM
    #10
    Chadr7858

    Chadr7858 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2014
    Member:
    #131908
    Messages:
    1,913
    First Name:
    Chad
    Colorado
    Vehicle:
    19 TRD SHIT BOX, 02 BEST GEN
    All the mods; all the problems
    I had to run a 3137... Even smaller. My truck had the 3136 factory since it is a manual... At least I think
     
  11. Dec 10, 2024 at 8:43 AM
    #11
    Squeaky Penguin

    Squeaky Penguin Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2012
    Member:
    #76340
    Messages:
    10,069
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Brett
    Steamboat Springs, Colorado
    Vehicle:
    '01 4WD, SR5, TRD & '13 TRDOR AC
    Lots of dust and custom dents, Check Build
    All of the Denso radiators have the AT fluid cooler in the bottom.

    You have to go with another brand to get 4cyl manual option, which is even with the frame and no AT cooler.
     
    Chadr7858[QUOTED][OP] likes this.
  12. Dec 10, 2024 at 9:39 AM
    #12
    Speedytech7

    Speedytech7 Toyota Cult Ombudsman

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2014
    Member:
    #123587
    Messages:
    58,056
    Gender:
    Male
    FCQM+VG Cheney, Washington
    Vehicle:
    96 Turbo Taco V6 405WHP & 482lbft
    It's less Tacoma and more mod
    Model 1985 has a cooler but is even with bottom of the frame. You can remove the cooler elbows too
     
  13. Dec 10, 2024 at 6:41 PM
    #13
    Chadr7858

    Chadr7858 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2014
    Member:
    #131908
    Messages:
    1,913
    First Name:
    Chad
    Colorado
    Vehicle:
    19 TRD SHIT BOX, 02 BEST GEN
    All the mods; all the problems
    Running and driving. Ran 70 down the highway without any qualms. Shocking how well it moves on 37s and stock 4.10s.... I guess that's the perk of a blower lol. The only issue is a nice solid thud/clank while nearing full lock from the passenger side. No idea what that's about.

    Next up:

    Re gear the rear end
    Fix exhaust dump
    Get a front driveshaft built
    Run air locker stuff
    Put on steering stabilizer

    PXL_20241211_004822518.RAW-01.COVER.jpg
     
  14. Dec 11, 2024 at 8:38 AM
    #14
    Speedytech7

    Speedytech7 Toyota Cult Ombudsman

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2014
    Member:
    #123587
    Messages:
    58,056
    Gender:
    Male
    FCQM+VG Cheney, Washington
    Vehicle:
    96 Turbo Taco V6 405WHP & 482lbft
    It's less Tacoma and more mod
    Check to make sure your steering link ends aren't hitting each other at lock, happens to my buddy's rig only turning one direction
     
  15. Feb 5, 2025 at 3:47 AM
    #15
    Operator8

    Operator8 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2021
    Member:
    #377040
    Messages:
    721
    Gender:
    Male
    Woodland Park, CO
    Vehicle:
    2005 White Tacoma TRD OR
    SAS INW
    Digging the progress! Hope to see you out on the trails!
     

Products Discussed in

To Top