Turbo 4 Cylinder Tacoma

These new turbo motors are insanely impressive, peak torque at under 2500rpm. Anyone who says a 3rd gen will tow as well as a 4th gen is plain delusional. I’ve towed a car with my 3rd gen and it was a nightmare on the highway, towing a similar load in a new Colorado with the turbo 4 pot was much more enjoyable.

 

I was here as a learner before an owner, however across a whole lot of people in forums and outside there are many exhibiting parochial behavior and what might be jealousy. The whole pickup truck market is strange in the context of I've owned 5 and have been assigned 3 more over about 50 years. They're far more as passenger vehicles for many, and crazy amounts of ego or identity can be in it.

A point in some of my posts and maybe for someone like you, and where I was is just pointing out the gen 4 are much improved vehicles. They also did not all of a sudden turn past models into bad ones. Knowing Toyota stands behind products though, any risk with new seemed acceptable for very significant things such as safety ratings, the superior powertrain, comfort and operating behavior.

If my 2024 proves bad in time I can't imaging anything like someone old enough to remember malaise era, and it will still have been a good tool for my business and my wife and I redeveloping a property.

If someone wants to cut risk in the new generation I'd suggest a long bed and good for work model.

 

I’m sure this is relevant somehow

 

More power to you and I don't have issue with that. It's the frigging trolls that are here to make themselves feel better by bashing the fourth-gen Tacomas.

I'd be a troll if I went to the Third Gen page and told them how their trucks are gear-hunting fools and suck.

 

No one is bashing your 4 banger lol. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they are bashing or saying you are wrong. Gosh, so many people here have such a thin skin.

 

Ah yes, forgot about the possible piped in noise.

 

Toyota does not sell any vehicles equipped with a V8 in the US. That's how relevant Cup Racing is to Toyota's vehicle line up.

 

Leave the turbo 4 alone! God, let me live long enough to kick some ass. Hopefully, one day if you pull up next to a slammed red 2wd ac with a white cap, lets go. Oh and the chrome bull bar is just for effect.

 

This rant is by someone who has not towed with a ‘24

 

And yet, you brought it up

 

The people concerned about longevity and reliability need to understand the T-24 had to meet all the same durability testing benchmarks as the previous NA offerings. It’s those benchmarks that earned Toyota their reputation for reliability and longevity. There have been plenty of unreliable larger displacement NA offerings over the years.

People also seem to be forgetting that folks have been supercharging 3.5’s and 4.0s( engines not designed around boost) for years with little issue. A purpose built forced induction engine like the new 2.4 (designed with boost in mind) should be just fine. It looks like they have fixed the oil starvation issues at extreme angles, and the redesigned timing cover should fix the Achilles heel of then 3.5 and 4.0, timing cover leaks. In a lot of ways this new engine is more simple that the outgoing 3.5. Not to mention inline 4s are inherently stronger than V configuration engines.

 

And it turns a lot slower at the same speed than my ol' 3rd gen.

 

Statements like this cause you to loose much credibility

 

Toyota must think having a cup car with a V8 is important to Toyota as a brand. Lexus still sells the 500 coupe and sedan with V8 engines.

Manufacturers that have been involved in cup series racing have often put V8s in facsimiles of production vehicles that aren't available with V8 engines. The 25 Camry is hybrid 4cyl, the cup car gets a V8 but that's racing.

If you want to make things relevant. I believe the 4G is overpriced. Maybe if Toyota pulled their resources from various forms of motorsports Toyota could lower the price of their vehicles.

That's just my opinion. Which I'll be the 1st to mention my opinion does not matter, because I don't make decisions at Toyota, and at the end of the day it does not matter. Like so many other things that you have no control over, your opinion only matters to you.

 

This is laughable for someone with a gen 4 long bed who's owned 5 pickup trucks including V8, F350, and who's had two vintages of Toyota V6, manual and 6-speed automatics. Someone who's also had fleet assigned pickups including EV and diesel pickups.

The high torque near 2000 RPM, gearing splits for the 8 speed, and built in trailer brake control don't make it same as the current heavy duty pickup at work (GM3500) or a F350 I once had but make it a whole other animal or league for a lot of towing and carry relative to past pickups.

The V6 Tacomas and 4Runners are popular just like the highway mostly to our cabin so now 6 months of ownership means 6 months of passing them. Either side of two grades are often encountering past gen V6 Tacomas and 4Runners loaded with folks pulling boats, campers and rec stuff. A gen 4 powertrain not even the hybrid drops from 8th to 7th and holds 65-75 MPH while those vehicles are screaming in pain usually 5-15 MPH slower.

This doesn't make my past or others' V6 Toyotas bad. They were and are great in many ways. For your saying "delusional", it is really clear to me that some don't honestly know that or how much a gen 4 is a much improved vehicle.

It is also just fine to have a prior generation vehicle - we have those too. We don't let existence of improved versions of those hurt our ego influence foolish spending.

 

So much imagination

 

Exactly. Some yahoos are here to make themselves feel better.

 

You’ve never towed anything with a 4g taco

 

Not... From experience my 2nd gen (SR5/DC/LB/4x4) out performed my brothers Ford Expedition in towing. Granted it's not a 3/4 or 1 ton truck, but it held it's ground on the towing circuit for a mid size truck. As for my 24, it out performs my 2nd gen. Luv both trucks and towing is a reason I'm still with Toyo, without getting into a larger truck, for the exception of towing, for my needs....

 

The TSS 3 is really good but not so good that I've been able to use the truck for 1/2 year and 5000 miles of mostly work with my eyes shut. Most of that has been for my business and trail crew. I don't own a pavement pansy or mall crawler. It's not imagination that I now I own a mid-sized pickup that does what used to require a rental or would have required going back to a full-size I don't want. I've even worked parallel to an associate with a full-sized V8 agreeing the gen 4 is a whole other league than Tacomas he had. He had to get his Silverado for what a Tacoma could not do but does now.

Does your SR5 have a locker? That's been a vital requirement for my towing and pulling and I think we might be 15-20ish years into that only in a TRD OR. My older SR5 had that in a heavy duty package I have not seen for a long time.

@Sagebrush and @OpeCity , yeah....

To be fair, I also have a long bed. While that's not a point of HP, torque or what fits in the bed it aids the dynamics when I tow or haul near or max payload.