Need for rear bracket front seat spacers ?

I have been designing and making my QuikFix™ brand unique safe rear bracket spacers since 2018. Made for Toyota, Ford, Nissan, Honda, Lexus, Jeep and GM vehicles. I recently received a few inquiries for the 2024 Tacoma. From what I understand the 4th gen, with Toyota responding to the "jacker" trend, made a change that lifted the front of the front seats. I have read several complaints stating that now the rear of the seats are sitting too low. I now primarily market my 11th gen Honda front and rear seat spacer kits however I am always open to making a new product. If this is something of interest then post replies. My spacers are solid fully machined and not a stack of cheaply made stacking washers like others make. I also provide beteer stronger grade 10.9 hardware, that has 30% higher tensile strength and 30-40% higher shear strength, that is much stronger than the oem bolts currently holding seats to the floor.

 

Maybe stop at a dealer to look at a gen 4? From past Toyota ownership I can confirm gen 4 front seats are WAY better for all the fit/comfort ranges and the rear seat seems highly engineered to either cover the storage (or battery area) and also fold flat or up so maybe a challenge to modify. That might be a fast path for you to know if making something new for your business would be a good idea.

Good luck.

 

I am completely content with the products that I currently make. I posed the question based on inquiries received and complaints that I have read. I am simply offering a service if the need arises.

 

Yes, there is definitely a market for good quality spacers and hardware. I have the manual seats and I thought they sat too low, even at the highest setting (I am 5'11"), and I also thought that the back was too low compared to the front.

I fixed this by making a set of 1.25" spacers for the back. These seem perfect, but I think I could also jack up the front of the seat .75" to 1". I used oak for the spacers (yeah, yeah, I know...) and 8.8 grade bolts.

I would buy a kit with solid aluminum spacers and higher-grade hardware.

 

I would be interested in a set of spacers for the backside brackets of the front seats. I already have a set for the front brackets. Makes a big difference!

 

Does Toyota still use the same m10-1.25 bolts. Are the undersides of the brackets flat or do they still have a round shaped boss. My rear spacers are made with different pocket shapes, flat top or round pocket or rectangular pocket, so the brackets rest in the spacer instead of on top of the spacer. Typical pre-2024 spacer with pocket shown:

 

I'm interested for sure. Not sure about the specs, but interested in lifting the seats for my wife's and my long summer trips of 4-8 weeks on the road with our camper. What'd be the estimated cost for driver and passenger seats? I think I'd do both the fore and aft mounts/seat.

 

1st thing is, at this time, I am not currently looking to make them for the front brackets. I am currently addressing the needs of lifting the rear of the front seats. I sold over 5,000 sets of rears for the FJ Cruiser and 2nd/3rd gen Tacoma. Probably $33-$35 for 1 seat and $56-$58 for 2 seats. Will include bolts, instructions and free shipping. Depends on a couple of things. Current design or new design, shipping costs, machining times, etc. I can guarantee they will be better fitting, fully custom machined and hand polished grade 6061, and much better and cheaper than anything the "desert' guy will provide. I may address the front brackets later. For reference the front and rear kits (pictured) for the Honda vehicles are $88 per seat which is cheaper than the "desert" brand front spacer kits.
I have detailed pictures of ~70 vehicles however I cannot find any pictures or schematics for the 2024 Tacoma floor brackets. Initially I may provide a discounted test set to the 1st buyer to see if they work ok or if I need to make any design changes. I am big on safety and really hope to make them with a pocket. The pocket insures that the bracket will not shift, or slide off the spacer, in the event of an accident or sheared bolt. With body weight on the seat, without a bolt installed, you cannot knock the spacer out with a hammer.

 

Yes, the bolts are M10 - 1.25. I did not notice any boss or pocket. It was a while ago, but the mounting surface for both front and back brackets of the front seats were flat pads. I used hardwood plugs from a hole saw as spacers.

 

Thanks. I appreciate the info. I stock hundreds of those bolts as well as hundreds of other metric bolts for other vehicles.

 

If you guys don't mind a dumb question from someone who does not own a Gen-4 Tacoma (not yet anyway, but considering one).

Are seat spacers only a concern with manually adjusted seats? Not an issue with power seats? Thanks.....

 

I cannot answer that however I sold a lot of the rear spacers for 3rd gens with power seats. My 3rd gen uncomfortable manual seats is why I created the rear spacers in 2018. I first made front spacers which just did not fix my lower back pain issue. The rears did the trick without pushing my knees up into the steering wheel.

 

I had spacers on my 3rd Gen. They aren't needed for the seats that come with the Premium Package.

 

I'd really like to have the spacers in my 4G SR5. Wife and I will be doing long summer camping trips and I think it'd help her lower back and leg circulation issues.

mrproduxn [OP]: I'd be happy to test drive your kits and give you feedback.

 

I don't get it.....
I understand that the previous gen seats position sucks as your legs are very low to the floor of the truck & your legs sit very horizontal...
The seat bottoms cushion are on a very flat plane, zero front knee lift, legs flat & close to the floor....
So front seat jackers help alot...

Now the 4th gen, some people think they want front jackers while other want rear jackers.....?
Im short 5'8" & always like my seats jacked to the moon, gives me better visibility...
I have power seats now but even in my 24 sr5 with manual seats I thought position was comfortable.....

WHAT IS THE REAR JACKER SUPPOSE TO ACCOMPLISH / RESOLVE?

The way I see it, is it will flatten out the plane on your legs which everyone complained about in the previous gen.
At the same time I do understand it will raise the overall seat height, but negative result is the horizontal legs close to the floor.

that's my 2 cents, educate me........

 

In my mind it's about adjusting the pitch of the seat so that the lumbar support is more effective to your personal physique. This adjustment is missing in the new seats, which I agree are argueably better than prior gen seats. Frankly it's an age thing too. In my 20's I would not be worried about this at all, but now I'm 61 and a lifetime of outdoor adventure has taken its toll. That pitch adjustment in the power seat in my F150 was something I really liked, and I miss that on my Gen4 Yoda; a small amount of rear height can help adjust the pitch to so the lumbar support hits the right spot on my back. In addition it helps with hamstring discomfort, particularly on the long haul trips we tend to do several times a year. It boils down to a personal choice thing. If you like the seats the way they are, great. They are MUCH better than the ones that were in my Gen 2 Tacoma. But if you need options b/c Toyota cheaped out with the dumbass decision to not make power seats standard on the SR5 and especially the TRD Sport, the seat jackers may help out.

 

Frankly, power seats should be standard on all but the lowest trim levels. It's 2025 for cryin' out loud. Shoot, my 1998 Accord has power driver seat that's still 100% operational. They're reliable as hell across all manufactures. Economy of scale says power adjusting seats should be so cheap to make now that putting them in almost every trim level should be a no brainer. But if they did that, they would be giving up the opportunity for you to shell out $5k more for the option package that includes power seats...and a bunch of other options you may not want/need.

 

Agree...
I didnt have an issue at all with the manual seats in my 24 sr5, & my lower back is toast...
Dont LOVE the sport as still have a warm fuzzy feeling about the clean lines of an sr5, but the 14" display & the power seats makes me look past all the other gayness of a sport....

 

In my mind, Im having a really hard time visualizing all that.....
Changing the mounting position of the rear of the seat really doesnt change where the lumbar is going to hit your back, UNLESS you account for maybe the slight repositioning of your legs on the floor may pivot your hips some, I guess....

Nice that the power seats, your actually able to pivot / articulate the seat bottoms.....
Yes, I overthink things....
Just trying to make sense of it!

I get the theory of the seats are very low & your legs lay flat & extended, so put a jacker of front so the seat has some lift, your knees have some bend...
But in the rear, youre eliminating that.

 

Well, it also depends on your personal physiology. Not everyone's hips and backs are the same, particularly as we age. On long trips driving up to 10 hours/day I'd adjust that front/back orientation a few times a day to alleviate different types of stiffness from sitting 2-4 hours before stopping for gas, restroom, etc.