new tacoma not impressed, turbo, and battery

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got a point or two…. Three?

 

I own fords. They are horrible. I can’t wait to get a tundra or Tacoma again. #4 buy back manufacture in the world at this time. 1 of every 148 vehicles ford makes get bought back at this time. That ain’t a low number.

2017 Raptor. Front diff rebuilt, cam phaser retune done still rattling and will eat the engine at some point. They tried to fix the front diff 5 times. Plastic oil pan leaking and replaced. The plastic drain plug has to be replaced every oil change. Front axle bearing and seal replaced 3 times. All my buddies with superduties and f150’s having problems too. NO WAY I BUY ANOTHER FORD. I did extend my 6 year warranty out to 9 years cause if a turbo goes it’s 9k.

Everybody always thinks the grass is greener on the other side of the fence. It ain’t.
You only need a diesel IF your towing a ton of weight. Between the much higher initial price of a diesel superduty, higher fuel prices, def, and 20 quarts of delo for oil changes. These expenses make a gas engines pencil out much cheaper. Unless like I said you wanna tow 16k pounds.

 

You're comparing a Tundra to F250/350...smh

 

Yep. The Super Duty crushes the Tundra in payload & towing.

 

Tundra recall note for 168,000 vehicles.

Toyota Recalls Certain 2022 and 2023 Toyota Tundra, Tundra Hybrid Models - Toyota USA Newsroom

 

Well, not quite. 50 years as a mechanic, author of a book on car repairs, and 2 Emmy awards for his TV show covering Auto stuff is a little more than some dude who sells outrage on youtube.

 

All of that doesn’t keep him from being a blowhard Luddite

 

So you’re admitting you agree Scotty does indeed sell outrage on YouTube….

Don’t get your panties in a wad over a vehicle. If you don’t like Toyotas anymore, don’t buy one. No sense in complaining on the internet about it

 

What does "not quite" mean in your native language?

 

This is the “panties in a wad” part I was talking about lol

 

Since you added that line AFTER I responded, I'm not sure I should be judged on it. Just sayin'

 

Well, Tacoma owners spoke and that is what they want, so Toyota did it.... that and the terrorists from the EPA forced their hands.... which one had the greater influence is debatable I guess... lol

 

I will stick this here. Never had a turbo. Other than following the 24 manual. Any tips on operation. Some say they need a warm up and cooldown time. I am not racing it. Oil changes 2x a year ?

 

Same as any other vehicle. Warm it up before running hard, drive it gently for a minute before shutting it off, keep clean oil in it

 

Toyota knows what it’s doing, but so does Scotty Kilmer.
My takeaway? The G4 Tacos will be reliable and capable of high miles, but the normally aspirated motors (3.5 and 2.7) will live on as legendary and will always be sought after.
As for Ford, virtually every technician quoted who works on them prefers the 5.0 NA V8 over their turbo (2.7 and 3.5) motors.
Clearly Toyota is not Ford, but the fundamental difference in high boost vs low-boost engines remains.

 

I am a mechanical engineer. I take great joy in driving and using various types of vehicles.

My last truck was a 2004 Dodge dually with Cummins turbo diesel, 4wd, and 6 speed manual gearbox. I bought it new. It was stolen in the middle of Covid with 170k on the odometer. Whoever stole it knew how to drive stick. The video of the thief showed him laying down dually burnout leaving the parking lot.

I was born being critical and pessimistic. It’s my job. I analyze and criticize to improve. I work in repair and fix things that break.

I got hit twice in that great big blue behemoth. Both times in good weather, broad daylight and stopped at a traffic light or behind a left turning vehicle right after a light on flat, straight roads.

They ran into the back of me. The second time, a Nissan Frontier, hit us so hard, he lifted the rear end, pushed the bed into the cab, and made the volume knob in the radio pop off in reverse, never to be found again.

When I was in high school in the early eighties, Mount Saint Helens blew up. In science class they showed us a PBS Nova special about it. It was fascinating. It was tragic.

The thing that struck me most was the tale of a survivor and those that didn’t make it.

There was a death race of outdoors recreators and working lumberjacks running down that mountain by foot and vehicle as fast as they could ahead of a blistering fast, unstoppable, smoking hot, ash filled, toxic cloud that hugged the ground destroying all life before it.

It was a monster cloud with some sort of special volcano science name billowing grey, black, and white and everyone everywhere that day on the mountain knew it came from hell even if they knew not it’s proper name.

One such race was told by a survivor coming down that mountain on a highway at 100 mph. 100 mph down a steep mountain road with 1970’s brakes, tires and interstate cruising shocks and springs.

Better to take a chance on getting killed sliding off a turn too tight for tires bought with hard durable rubber than to let that cloud envelop you and let coroners try to figure out if the heat or ash suffocated you first.

As the survivor hit the straight, he poured still more gas through the primitive carb possibly thankful for filling up with premium leaded fuel. Maybe regular was enough, beat by the human strength of adrenaline, fear, and survival motivation.

Up ahead, there was a 1970’s, full size station wagon sledding down the mountain at 80 mph with a driver unable to feel the front wheels through the wallow of the soft suspension and hydraulically over boosted finger tip steering.

The over 100 mph survivor testified to passing that wagon at every man only able to be for himself speed and his testimony was used to approximate the speed of that terrible cloud as not over 100 but forever faster than 80.

The show provided a camera shot of that wagon crashed off the side of the road, sideways, covered with trees knocked down by hot winds of hurricane force and made heavy and solid with stone ash.

I don’t think you are pessimistic enough.

I am an expert on the subject.

It’s been 30 years on that old, slow truck.

Your luck might be out.

It’s not the engine reliability that gets you, it’s life’s lack of reliability that gets you.

The true take of the truly pessimist is that the power of that turbo and electric motor are going to be barely enough to save your life from something monstrous.

Be it lousy drivers, drunken fools, torrenting flash floods, no warning tsunamis, crashing landslides, bursting dams, massive riots, wind driven forest fires, F5 tornadoes, incoming missiles, or any other calamity requiring superior escape speed, the power and might of a turbo reinforced by instant electric juice is your key to reliable survival success and economic wellbeing.

I never once wished for no turbo. The thief stealing my truck was glad that turbo hooked up the limited slip duallys on the brand new tires I accidentally gave him.

I hope this helps provide perspective on your solid sensibility and commitment to lasting value.

I know you will use power responsibly.

This is my first post here.

I’m am thinking of the new 4Runner and am checking the drivetrain out based on the Tacoma.

The hybrid only thread was perfect. Tacoma World has men of brain power.

 

Wow man....just wow. I feel like I need to charge you some money for reading that therapy session.

 

Amazing

 

(bad) AI running wild.

 

Scotty kilmer knows what he’s doing, if you mean that he knows that being controversial drives clicks.

if you’re talking about actually understanding the automotive industry, engineering, and being consistent or objective, no he does not