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The Be All End All to Your Alignment!

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by ForestRunnerFrank99, Jul 6, 2022.

  1. Nov 19, 2024 at 11:39 AM
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    Best alignment cam upgrade and frame box kit with the KPO kits!!!

    Didn't see it, but do you have the Solo LCA bushing kit on the site?
     
  2. Nov 19, 2024 at 12:19 PM
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    We don't have it on the site but we can definitely get them ordered!
     
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    Add me up for that too. Will PM later today and a Happy Thanksgiving.
     
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    Okay, question for you. Forgive my ignorance, but what is the advantage, or the intended fix, for having the grease? Is the grease to promote movement of the LCA, or to prevent the bushing's sleeve seizing on the bolt, or both?

    Thanks!
     
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    It works both ways. You don't need greasable bolts on factory bushings (just antiseize your bolts) but for poly bushings and those with a removable sleeves it is critical they are greased. If they aren't greased they will start to wollow out and eventually become unsafe to drive on. You need to drill holes in your sleeves to ensure the grease makes it to the actual bushing. If you don't drill holes in it the grease just stays around the bolt.

    The fix the grease bolts provide is not needing to take your LCA's out to grease everything.
     
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  6. Jan 7, 2025 at 7:54 AM
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    I have a set of these. Can anyone tell me how many degrees it moves per rotation? I would like to tell the alignment guy this information. Thank you
     
  7. Jan 7, 2025 at 9:12 AM
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    Moves what, it's too hard to estimate what it would be out at the tire since both cams contribute to that.
     
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    It wouldn't be an estimate. The hole moves the caster or camber, I don't know which, a certain amount of degrees per rotation. You could have said I don't know.. I wanted to tell him how many degrees it moves per rotation so if it's close, he's not spending his time to move it and find out out it moved too much. But thanks anyways...

    Also, extremely disappointed in the cosmetics of the tabs. You left massive burrs on the product that I had to fix myself. Luckily I am a machinist so I was able to do the correct deburring job myself, but this is an American product. Please treat it as such and take pride in your work and deburr them. The the bare minimum you should have tumbled them... these would never leave my shop like this.
     
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  9. Jan 7, 2025 at 7:13 PM
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    You could have said you didn't understand my question too since it's evident you didn't. The cams are octagons so divide 360/8 if you want a pointless answer since it equals a reciprocating motion at the arm. But again both cams contribute to make an amount of degrees of camber at the wheel, not just one. One isn't camber or caster, they're both and every setting is a compromise between the two. Also this sale page is for the 1st gen versions of his product, which unless you've got another vehicle isnt what you have in your profile.
     
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    I do have the second gen. Still doesn't change my question. And yes, they absolutely move a certain amount of degrees per rotation. Just because there are other factors that can change it, does not mean it doesn't money a certain amount.
     
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    I'm sure someone is eager to make that table of very specific values for you, you seem like such a nice fella. Never mind that these are for a 1st gen and the moments are different from 1st to 2nd gens front spindle and arm geometry. Maybe at least go condescend to the right group of people.
     
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    This does not have a simple answer. It depends on so many variables such as what UCA's you run, what LCA's you run, what type of bushings you have, how old they are, the shocks you run, the amount of lift you have on your truck, etc. etc.
    Toyota doesn't even publish exact numbers for the factory cams because it's all relative to your vehicle. The alignment shops we use have TONS of experience with lifted Toyotas and even they can't give us a straight answer because, as I said, it really just depends on your vehicle.

    As far as the burrs go, I remember your email to us. These are DIY weld it yourself parts. Any off-road shop familiar with these types of items will tell you step 1 is to prep the parts. At our shop nearly every DIY WIY part that comes through requires DAing to remove slag, burrs, rust, etc. It's quite the norm. I understand you're a machinist who works in the thousands if not hundreds of thousands of inches but that's not how it works in the laser cutting/custom fabrication world. The laser leaves a slight burr and the tolerances are within the tenths at times. Believe it or not our parts come out very, VERY clean compared to some other companies out there, trust me. Order something that's plasma cut and you'll see exactly what I mean.

    We also tried tumbling our parts but with only 2 of us running KPO we just found it wasn't worth our time. We order these in the hundreds of pounds at a time and with all the different variations tumbling, cleaning, and sorting just isn't on the table. And sometimes it STILL wouldn't remove some of the bigger burrs or slag which comes off in seconds with a DA sander.

    That said, we do tumble where it matters such as on our new stainless Octagons.
     
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    Wooooow. I wish I never bought these. Thanks for the reply. Had you have actually designed these like you said, you would know the answer.. you stole someone else's idea and sold it to tacomaworld people. And you have shitty manufacturing process. I wish I could return them . I do not want to support fake ass people
     
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    You are telling me that I can move the tab and get a different angle movement everytime? That's what you are saying
     
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    :rofl::rofl::rofl:

    I think you missed your career calling, you should have been a comedian rather than a journeyman parts scrapper.
     
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    BTW, I'm glad you only properly deburr the parts that are worth it to you. It takes 5 seconds to figure 8 them...
     
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    I only scrap junk that's sent to me
     
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    Also, factory cams move completely different than these. You can do slight movements, You can't with these. So thats why toyota wouldn't release those numbers. So keep trying to hide your ineptitude
     
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    The fact is, you don't know shizzit and your manufacturing process sucks..
     
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    There are no numbers associated with the movement values, in fact let's ask a Toyota tech... @Empty_Lord do you move the cams until the values go green on the alignment machine or do you calculate the cam movement first? I align on a Hunter machine just like Toyota does, no one plans their movements. Go ahead, ask Total Chaos if they have this information, or all pro, or marlin crawler. Go ahead, we'll wait... I'm sure you're not busy
     

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