4th Gen Tacoma (2024+)

Plus almost every dealer charges "Doc Fees". Could be as low as $200 but I regularly see $999. Registration fees vary from state to state. Some as low as $50, some are several thousand. AZ has a VLT, first year VLT on that 58K Tacoma would be $1,018.

 

KBB pricing is whacked out.

 

Yes, KBB actually usually quotes on the high side. Typically run higher than spot auction prices, so dealers usually won’t even consider KBB unless they’re next-level desperate (Stellantis).

I don’t blame the dealers at all right now: They are stuck with Toyota’s nutty pricing & feature content strategy just like we are. No reason to give them a hard time…unless they’re “protection plan” peddlers.

Best deals more likely late summer to EOY.

 

I see some dealers charge a freight fee. What is that? The destination charge is included in the MSRP, the destination charge is printed on the label. There's no freight inolved in the process.

 

This. Just like the prior gen and new gen tundras. Toyota messed up pricing and perceived value or long term reliability.

This is a 24 TRD prem OR with 10k miles vs my 22 with 36k miles same condition, best I was quoted was $50k for a 24 similar truck discounted. That’s a big hit initially. Compared to my 22 which I paid $42k and still only $6k less in value.

 

I was able to make a purchase today. I got it for 57,900 out the door. TRD off-road premium with disconnect swaybar locking rear differential and ARB red tow hitches in the back. I think that was a pretty good deal. They gave me 30,000 trade-in for my 2019 Trd sport 4 x 4 it had 53,500 miles on it. Basically I was able to get a discount of about 9% or around $5800 and some change. The sticker price was just over 60,000

 

How do you like it? Pics in the appropriate color thread or it didn’t happen!

 

That is a good deal.
Congrats and enjoy!

 

I vaguely remember getting KBB quotes periodically after I bought by 3rd gen, and for the first year, the kbb quotes for all trim levels were the typical 10-20% depreciation from MSRP "once you drive it off the lot" but in the following year the values went up and stayed up. For an extended period a couple years later they were more than the original MSRP. But the used market also went bonkers during that period so who knows.

In any case, Tacomas and 4Runners are in the top 5 of holding their value in every survey, and that has been true for many years running. That resale value leadership would only come to an end if all the Youtube narratives about "widespread problems" and "toyota has lost its way" becomes "truth through repetition." Or, if the quality and reliability objectively do decline in a major way. Nobody has any reason at the moment, beyond the exaggerated speculation in order to get click revenues, to believe that. There simply hasn't been enough time to make any concrete statements supported by evidence.

 

Took this pic about 5 min after I got it home. I removed the chin strap soon after!!!!

 

Yep, whatever pricing irregularities there are in the used market for the outgoing year while there are simultaneously 2 model years for sale, there is definitely something wrong with KBB's data sources for its pricing. I got used 2024 quotes for a limited, a TRD OR premium, OR upgrade, and base OR (I pulled some VINs out of an old KMG inventory file):



The OR premium (which has the sunroof and 14in display that the ORU added as additional options) is quoting lower than the OR upgrade. And the differential between the base and the ORU seems out of whack too. You wouldn't expect the credit for the additional options to be at MSRP but you also wouldn't expect it to be this small.

Some of the online pricing services don't account for options/packages at all (that especially sucks for high-dollar options packages like the ORP, which adds ~20% to the price). You just enter a VIN and overall condition. But KBB's pricing tool has a laundry list of factors you go through when getting a quote so something is broken in their data.

 

It’s definitely in error. And because Carvana uses their data (I think), Carvana quotes are also whack.

 

Try Carmax.

 

Why the hell did the dealership stick their dealership sticker on a BRAND NEW TRUCK? Unless your going to pay me to advertise for you, -uck off!

 

Are you old enough to remember the bumpers that were stamped with the dealer info?

 

I'm 56 But I don't quite remember those lol

 

I plan to pull mine off while still at the dealership when the time comes just like I did last time.

 

Yeah not sure when they stopped doing them...I think at some point bumpers on trucks were an optional item and dealers would put their own on there.

 

Haha, I have never seen that stamping on the bumper and did not know that existed.