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Allpro expedition springs

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by The Munster, Apr 13, 2011.

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  1. Apr 13, 2011 at 6:50 PM
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    Hey guys, so I got my springs along with some Billy 5150s. I opened everything up and started thinking. The springs will give me 4" unloaded, so will I need extended brake lines in the rear. If I do, will I be ok to drive around till the lines get in???
     
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  2. Apr 13, 2011 at 7:19 PM
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    PM Jlee he is running those leafs and Billy 5150s, he will know if your safe till they come. But yes i think you will need extended brake lines
     
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  3. Apr 13, 2011 at 7:23 PM
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    Get lines before you install. Most 1st genners I've talked to report 4.5-5" of lift out of these springs.
     
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  4. Apr 13, 2011 at 7:42 PM
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  5. Apr 13, 2011 at 11:28 PM
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    should be able to by clicking on his name...
     
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  6. Apr 14, 2011 at 3:11 PM
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    you will need an extended brake line for sure,the stock one will be at its max and then some.
     
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  7. Apr 14, 2011 at 3:16 PM
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    You could get away with the stock brake line at 3" because it's rubber but anymore than that you'll need an extended line. You don't want that line to break on you.
     
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  8. Apr 14, 2011 at 3:21 PM
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    Yeah we talked and just to put my 2c in YES you do need longer lines hell I couldn't even install my Expos with the stock break lines. I got just about 5" of lift with the Expos and the 1.5" extended shackles (3/4"Lift) and with the springs with no load(IE frame on jack stands) it's more like 7"
     
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  9. Apr 14, 2011 at 6:52 PM
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    Wait a minute...you have lift shackles too?! So you current ride height in the rear is ~5" correct? So with stock length shackles it would be more around 4.25"?
     
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  10. Apr 15, 2011 at 4:36 PM
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    Well I got everything I need.. Except shackles. I've looked around and I cant find any that DO NOT give lift. I ran down the road to fat bobs garage and he won't have any for 3 weeks. Toytec has OME ones that are greasable but wheelers Offroad says they only work with OME springs. .. Help!!!!
     
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  11. Apr 15, 2011 at 4:41 PM
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    I thought they would work with stock shackles and their bushings? :shrug:
     
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  12. Apr 15, 2011 at 4:43 PM
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    Why do you need longer shackles? Your stock shackles will work fine unless you really want to go higher. Your expo leafs should have come with new bushing too. How high do you plan on going in the front?
     
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  13. Apr 15, 2011 at 4:44 PM
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    x2 I want tp pick these springs up for my future lift. and was planning on using the stock shackles....
     
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  14. Apr 15, 2011 at 4:46 PM
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    You're supposed to use your stock shackles unless you plan on going more than 3" in the front.
     
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  15. Apr 15, 2011 at 4:52 PM
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    Yeah I'm just under 5" of lift so give or take a little 4 to 4.25"
     
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  16. Apr 15, 2011 at 4:53 PM
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    I only have 3" in the front and I have just about stock rake.
     
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  17. Apr 15, 2011 at 4:56 PM
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    If you shackles are anything like mine were your going to want new ones. I had to beat my bolts out and almost had to cut one off.
     
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  18. Apr 15, 2011 at 5:10 PM
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    the truck has 77k on it. you think they would be on there pretty good? if i use the grinder and do what you mentioned above, would the shackles be pretty beat up?
     
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  19. Apr 15, 2011 at 5:29 PM
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    My truck has 226000 miles on the original shackles... Those babies aren't coming off... Yes the springs come with bushings and a sleeve already installed
     
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  20. Apr 15, 2011 at 5:30 PM
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    Yeah I only have 3 inches in the front. That's why I need shackles with NO lift
     
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