Motorcycles BS Thread 2.0

Oh I can bet it would not be fun off road, but I'm talking fire roads at worst:



But then that makes me wonder - do I even need 80/20 tires for something like this?

Although, the 80/20s are cheaper than the Road 6...

 

Unless it gets muddy road 6s will do just fine. You'd actually be surprised at the grip achieved from a Michelin road on dirt like that.

Edit - if you wanted a lil bit more off road tread pattern Michelin Anakee adventure gets my vote.

 

Raids are 40/60? Where are you seeing 80/20? I have a set of Trailmax Mission's (60/40) on my F800GS and I'm loving them. I have another set waiting to go on. The staggered pattern on them means there's always a patch in contact with the road so they're smooth, but they still have deep chonky bois and do surprisingly well on gravel and dirt roads. I'd vote those, personally. I also had really good luck with the Motoz Tractionator GPS's. Those have a center stripe down the middle and lugs on the outside that worked really well, too.

 

Sorry, I think I was using the term "80/20" as any general use adv tire that can do street and dirt.

I just watched a Dork in the Road video about the ADV's that he recommends the least to beginners and the Super Tenere was at the top of the list.

Maybe I should just get Road 6's again?

 

Big adv's are an odd duck, but you can go further and harder than a light adv.

I've offroaded with a 690 that that had a stripe down middle tire, Hiedenau K60? Something like that, and it didnt suit the real trail duty, but for a heavy ADV like the Super Tenere it makes loads of sense.

The Dork video is referencing new riders like me , not seasoned riders.

 

I'm a complete noob when it comes to off road, though. I've only gone dirt biking a few times so I wouldn't say I'm anything other than a beginner/new rider in that aspect.

 

Fair enough, but balance and clutch control are already in your skill set.

The Super should only really see trails that are level and dry. If its washed out or a crazy hill climb its simply the wrong bike.

I struggle to pick up my 300lb bike on a trail, I cant imagine 500-600lbs.

 

Got to play in the snow on the DR a little bit yesterday! We were gonna go for a ride but wifey’s battery in the XT was dead so had to settle for some pics together. Got to play with some sliding and spinning the rear tire though. That was fun.

 

Oof I would not get K60's again. Great for longevity (10,000+ miles) and OK in gravel/dirt, but those things are murderers in the wet. I've never had a greasier tire than those.

 

Ahh gotcha. yeah, conventional use is % on road/ % off rode so 80% on 20% off. Kind of subjective and marketing lingo but helpful for differentiation from big blocks and street tires with a little wider gaps. I forget who said it earlier, but if you're doing gentle dirt and packed gravel, road 6's are going to be OK if you're going slow. You probably won't get a lot of confidence out of them and won't really be able to roost around much, but they'll do OK for exploring a bit and dipping your toes in.

I need to weigh my F800GS. I'm guessing I'm north of 450, if not 500. Technique is key, but even then I can only lift it a few times a day before I'm wrecked.

 

Trying to find the best place to jump in and give my two pennies.

Not sure of the tire size on the super 10, but the Bridgestone TW41/42 (f/r) come standard on the DRZ 400 and the DR 650 as well. They are labeled as a 80-20 (I think) and work really well on road with a light weight bike. Not sure on an heavy bike. Off road is not bad either, but that is subjective to the type of terrain, and wet or dry. They are much better in the dry than wet (mud) off road. Sand…. Hang it up unless there is a lot of twist in the throttle. But once you get going you can maintain, to a point.

This said.. My dirt in the east is different than your dirt in the west. Also, go at a slow pace with any tire you go with, then work up in excitement with ‘em.

You can see the tire in @moto.hermit ‘s last pic’s in The snow.

 

I'm a noob at every aspect of this. Roads like that are what i ride too, and the only advice I have is carry an air compressor so you can let a little air out,and put it back in, no matter what tire you get.
Street pressure is a little hard and every tiny rock throws the front end around. Since the tires are warm when I air down, i just let out 10 psi front and rear, and replace 10 psi, no matter what the actual pressure reads. The next morning it's always within a pound or two of where it should be.

 

Not necessarily moto related... but I did ride my super tenere today to get some different springs for the RC crawler.

If you ever need to restore headlights highly recommend the Cerakote brand headlight restoration kit. Did it on my truck like 6 mon ago and still looks great, just did my moms 4th gen 4runner today and it turned out awesome.

 

Yup used the cerakote kit from Amazon and agree it works amazing

 

i mean i ran street tires on my supermoto and it would slip sometimes on loose rocks but overall it they kept traction really well so your street tires might be fine tbh?

 

i thought you had a 2.5 gen taco?



also i just buy headlight assemblies lmao

 

hells ya man!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XHJUYYH7s4

saw this video and thought it was interesting!

 

Long day today! Went to @nd4spdbh 's hood again as I went to a shop in LA to get measured for my custom race suit. ~850 miles round trip. Saw the fires on the hills from the highway. Really eerie to see and I just hope they're put out soon and families can start to rebuild.

Also ran the Super Tenere straight out of gas. During my last stint to get back home the reserve indicator came on with ~55 miles to go. I had made it back home from the exact same gas station last week during my Iron Butt ride so I wasn't too worried and figured I'd make it home.

While I was in the right lane to take my exit home off the highway (literally half mile from the gas station where I was planning on filling up before heading home) the bike started sputtering. It got so bad that I had to pull on to the shoulder and turn the engine off and coast to a stop. Unfortunately I stopped at a dark area on a curved part of the off ramp, so I figured I'd turn the bike on and try and move it to a better location and then call my wife for help. The bike fired right up and I was somehow able to coax it around the uphill cloverleaf off ramp (took some clutch slipping and revs), got to the top of the bridge and shut the engine back off. I coasted to the next intersection, then got to the crosswalk and pushed my bike across the street and to the gas station.

I'm such a dumb ass but also so lucky. What a day.

Also, my rear tire is completely cooked. I've ordered the Dunlop Trailmax Missions. I hope I can get them before next weekend!

 

Thanks for all the thoughts on the tires!

The problem I have with both Michelins (Roads and Anakees) is the price. They're not cheap at all.

Yeah definitely not trying anything crazy on the Super Tenere! I just want the option of being able to go down some dirt roads if my friends are going.

My issue with the Roads is how fast they keep wearing. My front tire still looks great after 15k miles but the rear doesn't even make it to 10k. I put 9k on the first one and now 7k on the second one and they're both toast.

I think I'd be sticking to dry-ish dirt and gravel only. No way I'm ready to take on sand or mud on a 600 lb adv!

Good call! I do have a portable tire inflator I keep in my tool box on the bike. I also ordered some 90 degree valve stems to make filling up easier. The ones on there right now stick straight up and are a pain to fill.

Yeah but a 300 lb supermoto is way easier to control than a 600 lb adv! I took my WR250X off road on street tires and it too was fine but I wouldn't try it on my S10.