For All You Haters That Say Intakes & Exhausts Don't Make Power - Dyno Proof

If your dyno pull shows over 100 lb ft less than spec, you're doing it wrong. You don't lose that much through the driveline.

The base numbers aren't kosher.

 

Less restriction = higher VE = less waste heat = more timing/lower AFRs = more power.
And/or they can override knock sensitivity a little

 

Ignore the blue line. The red line is a stock tacoma…. i read
143ish HP and 254ish ft/ib Torque at 3,000 RPM


Somebody who loves math figure the difference between the baseline in this dumb youtube video and this other baseline, and then what the video says after mods.


Thx

 

There was mention of the truck being JB4 tuned in the comments of the video.
One guy mentioned OTT, and they commented they were working with YotaWorks.

I do find it odd that their power gains look awfully close to a tuned truck.
JB4 and OTT tunes basically mimick their graphs. Yet they claim the intake and exhaust did all the work?
I find it hard to believe……..but anything is possible.
Maybe the truck can compensate that much on it’s own?

 

I refuse to watch clickbait Youtube videos and instead choose to commet from a position of ignorance.

But was this truck tuned or not? The gains are still inflated IMO but make more sense if it was also tuned.

 

They never say.
One can only assume it’s stock.
But the number are power curve lead me to believe it’s more than “just parts”.

 

Wouldn't it have to be? You are getting more air and have less backpressure. wouldnt you need to tune the ECU to expect that?

All these dyno runs seem really weird to me though, and not reflective of what toyota tells us we should be getting.

 

Exactly this, it's just two data points. Restriction is a curve and 70hp is truly possible if it were restricted enough. The problem is that if that restriction was so bad at 3k, the physics of how a turbo operates (assuming no other restrictions) would require an even larger gain anywhere above that on the dyno sheet.

 

Yeah, I just went back and looked at the old video and they are being disingenuous. In the old video they said they did 3 runs



This is their best run(blue line- no dip) 267/306


In the new video they are using their worst pull (260/283) but are saying it's the average of the 3 pulls. So yeah, Is it just the intake/exhaust or is there a small tune as well, either way I don't think I can trust them because I bet all they did was stick their best run against their worst stock run and said "Its all averages"

 

Well, I'm certainly not buying it. If it seems too good to be true, it usually is. Just the extreme difference alone is enough to tell me something isn't right.

 

The only "performance" mod I would be interested in is a factory tune like Ford did for the Ranger Raptor. 12% more HP and 25% more Tq for $825. If Toyota offered a tune that added 25-30hp and 65-70Tq for under $1K, I'd be all over it.

 

I still want to see a hybrid on the dyno to see if it's close to what Toyota claims. There could be some iForcemax runs out there, but I haven't seen anything.

 

Yeah, it might be hard to get an actual run. They likely only add as much electric power as they feel is needed, based on more than just how hard you are pushing the pedal down. Not sure a typical dyno run could simulate what is needed to see what the max torque could get to unless you know more about how they control the electric power.

For the spec, Toyota may have just added the max torque of the electric motor to what 2.4T puts out.

 

Sounds right to me. I'm sure you can feel the torque over the non-hybrid and their probably isn't a way to capture it on a dyno.

 

Theres roughly a 15% drivetrain loss for automatics so with a pull for a stock non hybrid numbers should be somewhere around 235hp and 278ftlbs

 

does anyone know of any drag race videos of 2 24s one none hybrid and one hybrid? TRD Jon says his new pro is way more powerfull than his OR none hybrid. ive only driven my ifroce maxx.

 

Test of 2022 Tundra TRD Pro. They got 366/507 out of it, which is about a 15% loss from 437/583.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3hr-PQWzBk

 

Their first dyno run all OEM.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dtk-a6UNY8

 

Here is OTT numbers. OTT Premium fuel Blue is nearly identical to R4T intake + Exhaust numbers!

Red baseline OEM regular fuel
Blue OEM Premium
Green OTT beta tune

 

He said the 4th gen will CRUSH the 3rd gen...
Sorry, just figured ide throw that in.........