About to finish 4x4 conversion... whereto first?

Other people mean we can blame THEM for OUR errors.

 

Florence box canyon is fun.

 

This is true. Been there a few times. Trying to make your way from there back to the 60 can be interesting too, ha. Especially in the dark.

 

The last 2 times I went the route had totally changed ,I think it's the mining in the area. The last time I went I took the 60 to mineral mine road and ran it north to south. There was a interesting ledge that I slid down before dropping into box canyon.

 

Butcher gate has been closed for along time. Rolls now requires Bulldog permit and you enter from 4 peaks road or Porbracito. Still a great place and plenty of 4x4 stuff to do.

 

That's right the permit just started.

 

You need a permit for Butcher Jones now?

 

Yep. I believe it started the 1st or really close to it.

 

Laaaaame. What's that even for? Not like it's going to make the area better, smh.

 

im pretty anti gov regulations

but

anything that makes it harder for SxSs I’m ok with

 

This guy talks about it.
https://youtu.be/RAy3wuRtq0U?si=khh15CkC1PqQ8tCy

 

Revenue.

$10 for 3 day pass
$60 for 6 months
$80 for 1 year

Apparently there is/will be a mobile app you can get a pass when you are out there, just need the app first.

 

I still doubt it's going to make anything better, ha. That area gets worse and worse every year. The only time I see people cleaning is the voluntary group events. I also heard that SXS's and the like will need some kind of licenses. Hopefully it will help but I doubt it.

 

I hear you. Im always picking up out there. So sad people are this lame.

Also the back way to Bartlett burned pretty bad. It's destroyed almost the whole way past the waterfall.