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Toyo RT Trail XL vs E load tires?

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by psilocyben, Jan 17, 2025.

  1. Jan 17, 2025 at 9:20 PM
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    psilocyben

    psilocyben [OP] Well-Known Member

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    I’m getting some Toyo RT Trails in 275/70r17 for my 2nd gen Tacoma V6 and I’m wondering if anyone has had either or can give some opinions on the right choice for me in regards to the XL vs E load range options. I’m really drawn to the extremely light weight of the XLs (42 lbs), but Im concerned about durability as I believe they are technically just 2 ply. I do a lot of highway miles to get to destinations but I do go to pretty remote places and occasionally find myself on difficult trails. This isn’t my daily driver.

    I’ve only ever ran E load range tires on my past trucks and had 285/70r17 AT3Ws on my GX. They were great and I didn’t get a single flat in 6 years but they were heavy and I could really feel the weight. I’m now looking for smaller, lighter tire, and something that won’t put too much strain on the lighter Tacoma. I do have a leer camper shell and my bed has a storage system and 300lbs of gear on trips.

    I’m leaning towards the E load range since 51lbs really isn’t that bad and I’d like the peace of mind of a 10 ply but wanted to see others opinions on the XL ones as the ride comfort and fuel savings
    is extremely tempting. I also really want to limit power loss and I already feel the Tacoma is under powered. How much more will my Tacoma struggle with a 51lb tire vs a 42lb?

    Specs per Toyos website below. Any insight appreciated here.

    Toyo RT Trails 275/70r17

    XL Load Range
    Load / Speed: 116T
    Weight: 42 lbs
    Max Load: 2756 lbs
    Max Pressure (PSI): 50


    E Load Range
    Load / Speed: 124/121S
    Weight: 51 lbs
    Max Load: 3525 lbs
    Max Pressure (PSI): 80
     
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  2. Jan 17, 2025 at 9:28 PM
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    DavesTaco68

    DavesTaco68 Well-Known Member

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    - ICON UCAs, BP51/Kings, SCS wheels, 285s, Leer 100XR canopy. Greenlane aluminum winch bumper, Smittybilt X20 winch. Trying Falken AT3w now, Really like BF KO2s.
    I have Falken AT3w in 285 70 17 in C load and they weigh 61lbs, holy fat! Surprisingly my mpg isn’t that bad with them, a bit worse than the KO2s in the same size and load range but they weighed 51lbs.
    I’d say go for the 51 lb E load, you said you get remote occasionally, on difficult trails.
     
  3. Jan 17, 2025 at 9:33 PM
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    Bishop84

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    If you see actual trails E rated all day. Makes deflating less worrying and resists punctures. I've had many tires and the 10 plys always take the abuse the best. They wear slower as well.

    I don't think I'd go back to a light duty all terrain, I'll be going full highway tire if I go that route.
     
  4. Jan 18, 2025 at 5:53 PM
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    psilocyben

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    Thanks for the insight guys. Yeah it’s just super tempting to be able to have such a light tire but I think the E loads are the right choice. 51lb really isn’t that bad and it’ll be worth it for the peace of mind when I’m far out.
     
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  5. Jan 19, 2025 at 9:02 AM
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    OffroadToy

    OffroadToy old, forgetful, and decomposing

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    Icon Stage 8, ECGS Bushing, Timbren ubolt flip, Crown extended brake lines, Overland Custom Design sway bar links, rear differential breather extension, oil filter drain hose, a/c drain hose extension & reroute, front windows tint, Cat Security, XPEL headlight/fog & grill protection, OEM block heater, RCBS illuminated 4X4 switch, Weathertech mats, Wet Okole seat covers, Sherpa Grand Teton/Crows Nest, Baja Designs S8 light bar, Diode Dynamics SS3 Pro fog lights, Method 305 NV Double Black, 275/70/17 Toyo R/T Trail.
    Been runnning e load for over 30 years... zero flats.

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  6. Jan 22, 2025 at 2:19 PM
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    psilocyben

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    How do these E load RT Trails handle in this size? I was convinced on just getting E but now I keep going back and forth. I know the durability will be worth it but I’m concerned about a stiff ride and noticeable acceleration loss. Are these factors not too bad with the 275/70/17 size? I’m hoping it won’t be horrible since it’s still a relatively light tire (example Falken Wildpeak AT4s in C Load 6 Ply 275/70/17s are 58lbs each).
     
  7. Feb 27, 2025 at 4:20 PM
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    OffroadToy

    OffroadToy old, forgetful, and decomposing

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    Went from 265/70/16 to 265/75/16 (both bfg a/t's) to the r/t trail 275/70 17 and never noticed any power loss.... the stiff ride is just a given with e loads. I like the way it handles... tracks like a tank and with the upgraded suspension doesn't sway while cornering. As far as gas milage i wouldn't know... never checked it and don't plan on starting.
     

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