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What Have You Done To Your 3rd Gen Today?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by hamiltonuh60, Nov 4, 2015.

  1. Jan 27, 2025 at 9:25 AM
    Road_Warrior

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    @TacoTime55 Ed I agree with this assessment. I’d get a second opinion because I would bet you a large sum of money that tech is full of crap and you don’t need new springs. Especially because if I remember correctly, I think you have relatively low miles on your truck right? My 2021 is about to hit 77K miles and my springs are in perfect shape. AND I do a fair amount of off-road driving.

    I highly, highly doubt you need new suspension (struts or springs).
     
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  2. Jan 27, 2025 at 9:31 AM
    TacoTime55

    TacoTime55 TT59

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    I'm coming up on 33K miles on my Sport.

    All street driving and the undercarriage is very clean.

    The Tech probably thought these were TRD Fox Springs...which do require new springs.

    And these are the Shocks from the TRD Lift Kit: 2 inches up front and 1 inch in the rear.
     
  3. Jan 27, 2025 at 9:33 AM
    BoomerGVNG

    BoomerGVNG GET OFF MY LAWN

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    what lift do you need? I would just do the 5100 swap with factory springs in front and a block in the rear.

    the TRD kit is wildly overpriced.
     
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  4. Jan 27, 2025 at 9:35 AM
    TacoTime55

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    I talked to the Parts Guy who read the install instructions and said new springs are not needed.

    Parts Guy also said it was part of the TRD Lift Kit--so I'm pretty sure he's spot on.

    The TRD Lift Kit is upwards of $1500 + labor.
    The shocks in this kit are $395 which are all 4 shocks.

    I'm thinking the Tech must of thought they were TRD Fox Shocks which do require new springs.

    I've got almost 33K miles on my truck.
     
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    Eye to eye length is going to effect max droop not ride height. Ride height is determined by how far the spring is mounted from the end.
     
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  6. Jan 27, 2025 at 9:45 AM
    Mach

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    Keep in mind that the TRD lift kit uses a 1in block in the rear to achieve that lift. It can be purchased seperately for cheap. There is also an OEM 1/2" block available.
     
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    The front shocks have 3 height settings for the top of the spring- so it is moving the shock up/down the body like you said. On a coilover there is usually a threaded collar for infinite adjustment, these just have 3 discreet settings and you need a coil spring compressor to adjust them.

    Rear shocks will need new leaf springs, add-a-leaf or a spacer block to get lift.
     
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  8. Jan 27, 2025 at 9:52 AM
    TacoTime55

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    I researched the Bilstein 5100 Leveling Kit and saw how the circlip can be adjusted between 1"-2".

    So I asked Dealership if they could tell me what upgraded shocks can be installed on my truck.

    I gave them my VIN and they told me about this kit.

    This TRD Kit includes front and rear shocks (2" lift up front) and is priced less than the Bilstein's front/rear kit.

    The Labor will cost more than the shocks themselves...I'll have to save for this upgrade.
     
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  9. Jan 27, 2025 at 10:01 AM
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    not sure if you’re able, but it’s a somewhat simple job. Can rent a spring compressor from most auto parts stores. Will need a jack, jack stands, impact gun and sockets. Being your truck is new, won’t really have to fight rust or frozen hardware either.
     
  10. Jan 27, 2025 at 10:03 AM
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    Yeah.
    Not sure I follow. If you took your existing shock and extended the rod that holds the bottom eye, you would absolutely get a lift. It would also affect max droop, but that's because it's lifted and consuming part of that droop. Not the best way, but similar to a top hat spacer.
     
  11. Jan 27, 2025 at 11:39 AM
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    A spring compressor is not needed on these trucks to replace the front struts, replacing them are super easy. Unbolt the lower ball joint, and loosen the lca bolts. You can throw a jack under the lca to compress the spring and remove the top strut bolt. Then lower the jack, remove the bottom strut bolt and out it comes. Its about a 30 minute per side job, takes longer to clean up and put the tools away.
     
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    OTT tune. I've had my 2017 Tacoma since it was new. It currently has 104,611 miles and wish I had known about the tune 104,000 miles ago. I contacted Jay at Low Country tuning inquiring about the OTT. I met with him in Charleston today and he woke my Tacoma up. I feel as if I purchased a new Tacoma today for $450.00. Light/mild tune made huge difference.
     
  13. Jan 27, 2025 at 11:43 AM
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    The rear shocks do not lift the truck, the full kit also comes with a rear lift block. If you install the struts at 2'' clip in front and just the rear shocks you will be nose high. Rear shocks alone will not give you lift, a block, add a leaf, new spring packs, bags are the only way to give you lift in the back. The new shocks will help support the weight slightly more but thats it.
     
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  14. Jan 27, 2025 at 11:50 AM
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    Good to know.

    Not sure if the kit includes the rear lift blocks...another question I'd have to get answered.

    Otherwise, I'll have to get it separately...if it's not in the kit.
     
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    Yeah, the circlip on the shock body having multiple groves to rest in to adjust the ride height makes perfect since, I could not see that in the picture from the dealer, or didn't see it one (now I have to look again lol)... That being said as long as the spring at full droop still has some compression on it, I don't think it needs to be replaced either now...

    Thanks for clearing that up y'all...

    EDIT, I can see the groves now in the picture...
     
  16. Jan 27, 2025 at 12:37 PM
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    Yeah have to take a look should be a rear block and longer u bolts. Also depends how you use the truck. The leaf springs in these 3rd gen’s are garbage. They sag with next to no weight. That is why it’s so common you see people swap the leaf packs all together to not only get the desired lift but also support a load.
     
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  17. Jan 27, 2025 at 1:35 PM
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    Thanks for this! I thought that’s how this could be done, didn’t really wanna scratch my springs up with a 4 prong harbor freight spring compressor. Been thinking about doing the front ones..
     
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    would it be a waste of time to just replace the leaf pack and not the shocks? With 60k on the truck.
     
  19. Jan 27, 2025 at 1:42 PM
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    Planning to swap with stock height leaf packs or some that give you lift? If lifting, you should put longer travel shocks to match.
     
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    Yep the weight of the truck is your friend, going back in throw the bottom bolt in the strut and jack the lca and spring slowly to line it up. Just don’t want to tear the top mount as the strut shaft passes through. Extremely easy install, hardest part is finding a reputable shop to do a real alignment vs just a toe and go like most do. It’s a nicer ride than stock worth the upgrade even if you keep the factory height. I went .65 and eventually went up to 1.1 noticeable improvement
     

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