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Wisconsin Tacomas and bad financial advice

Discussion in 'Mid West' started by Thatbassguy, Dec 19, 2008.

  1. Feb 14, 2025 at 12:24 PM
    Camerasandcoffee

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    It sounds silly, I know but there must be something about the design that makes it worse than just a pinched finger. I haven't had any luck finding a video that shows the handle in action.

    As someone who works for a machine manufacturer I can tell you that safety and guarding is a HUGE concern all throughout the design, manufacturing, and life of the equipment. We all like to complain about the guards being in the way, the world building better idiots, ect. I tend to agree with Pat that we were a tougher bunch back when, but the truth in the examples above is that people didn't always go home to their families after their shift. Was this because they were bad people? I'm sure not, just that bad decisions were made for any number of reasons.

    I know way too much about risk assessments, residual risk, US and European guarding standards, Cat 3 safety circuit design, etc. maybe best discussed over an old fashioned next to a campfire..
     
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    Many times it is experienced guys getting injured.
    Get so use to going through the motions and start getting lax.

    When our hands are by moving cylinders, (there's times they need to be, it's part of the job) my eyes are on my hand and I warn new guys the same.
    Watch what you're doing.
     
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    Igloo Recalls More Than One Million 90 Quart Rolling Coolers Due to Fingertip Amputation and Crushing Hazards
     
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    Pixeltim Misunderstood member

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    ouch!
     
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    Probably not watching what they were doing. :annoyed:
     
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    May have mentioned this here before, but when I first got into woodworking and furniture making I was hanging out on a forum with fellow woodworkers, many of them very experienced professionals. I came across a long running thread there called "Show us some damage." It was prefaced with graphic image warnings, and people were encouraged to show and tell about their injuries. I saw enough bloody mangled stumps and kickback bruises there to really make me start to prioritize safety, especially at the table saw. It really changed my approach to shop safety and I'm glad I was frightened and shocked into slowing down and being much more careful. Visualize every cut before wood touches blade or bit.
     
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    Also, never wear gloves around spinning blades or bits. Seems counterintuitive, but them blades and bits give zero fucks and will grab a glove and pull you in every time.
     
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    Thatbassguy [OP] Sweet or sour?

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    Is it really slipping if you weren't any good to begin with?

    I have been known to jump to conclusions at times.

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    Yeah, same.

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    I have an extra set of traction boards. Seem to be in pretty good shape, have seen some sun, but are still flexible. Extras are good, right?
     
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    The first month of High School woodworking class was 100% about safety. To this day I still approach my table saw every time as if it’s a saber toothed tiger that’s actively trying to kill me.
     
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    Thatbassguy [OP] Sweet or sour?

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    On a similar note, I did a Google image search of gunshot wounds before I bought my first gun. And, I've looked at pictures of fireworks injuries before 4th of July shenanigans. Both will really make you think.
     
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    We have had one of these coolers for about 10 years and no accidents, i don't understand. :notsure:
     
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    Just picked up my kid from her job at the middle school and showed her how to go sideways in 4-hi in the empty parking lot. :D It's really coming down! Bring on the thunder snow!
     
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    I can relate - grew up around men in my family, including my dad, never using chaps or helmets with chainsaws. All it takes is one large branch falling or a kick back to change your life (possibly even end it). I got my first chainsaw recently, and a pair of chaps/helmet were bought immediately.
     
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    You're doing it wrong...:boink:
     
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    OK, I'm that guy. To this day (and beyond...) I don't use either when running the chainsaw. My dad once nicked his knee with his 'trimming' saw (short bar/chain for clearing tops) when he foolishly swung the saw to get a different angle on a branch. He felt a tug on his pants, didn't think anything until he finished what he was doing and checked his pant leg and saw that he just broke the skin. My brother once using an electric saw, did something stupid by trying to cut a notch with the tip of the bar. He figured that it was 'only' an electric and when the bar hit the notch, the saw spun out of his hand, hitting the back of his hand, right behind the knuckles. That one was kinda ugly.

    Like Dean said, saws (table/circular/chain) scare the sh$t out of me with how things can go so wrong so fast. It's always take my time, be aware of everything going on around me, but full attention on what I'm trying to do.
     
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    I'm with you Rich, grew up around chainsaws & there was no safety chaps or helmuts, we were just carefull as we could be.

    Even those guys that made a living cutting piece-meal never had the so called "safety gear" they just did their jobs.
     
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    Hey that's fine, we'll all take our fair share of risks. I equally have known tree service guys who swear by safety gear like chaps - at the end of the day, to each their own.
     
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    Safety is mainly why I never attempted welding before. I've always seen the gas tanks and shooting sparks. That's not a good combination.
    I thought it was way more dangerous than it is....not that it isn't dangerous.

    I didn't just grab a helmet the other day.
    Grabbed some gloves and a jacket, too. I don't think I need a jacket but I've never welded, so I'll wear one for now.


    On the christmas tree farm we wore cut guards on our right legs. New guys wore ones that looked like a catchers leg guard. Other guys wore more of a one legged, canvas chap.
    While shearing trees the knife could occasionally drag back from heavy branches and hit your leg.
    All my right shoes had swipe marks down the sides from knife swings.

    We were more prone to bee stings.
    Guaranteed to get stung once/week. lol
     

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