New England B.S. Thread

Been thinking about the same thing...let me know what you find please

 

& likewise

 

Anything with a UL Class 350 rating will do documents for fire, and UL rated products will typically be rated for 30 minute increments, most typical being 30 and 60 minutes. Note that UL 350 is specifically for paper documents - you'll want UL Class 150 for media (photos) or Class 125 for electronics (thumb drives, hard drives, CDs, floppies if you got a copy of the launch codes still kicking around). Classes are rated for everything "below" them as well, i.e. a 125 does paper documents, too. The Class X rating means that the contents will not go above X degrees Fahrenheit for the rated duration Y minutes in a fire test. You can look up the full specs for the test, but note that the test is designed to represent the time that the container is itself engulfed in the hottest part of the fire. If it's under your bed, for example, you have Y minutes of the bed being fully engulfed.

On top of that you're going to want to look at a water rating, no sense surviving a fire if the firefighters kill it with the hose. It looks like there are a bucket of options with a proper UL 350 rating in your price range. Here's a manufacturer's page for one I trust -

https://www.fireking.com/collection...-water-resistant-chest?variant=47765893251369

- the .38 cu. ft. model is 1 hour UL 350 rated with a 100 hour submersion test. You can probably find a better price by looking around, but even MSRP direct from the manufacturer is $220.

If you want something fire rated AND burglary rated, you're going to want to start looking at stuff with a UL Class X fire rating as well as RSC (Residential Security Container) or TL (tool attack) certifications. RSCs aren't too bad, but when you start getting into TL ratings the price of containers goes up fast.

It wasn't asked specifically, but here I am infodumping - most "safes" aren't even RSC rated, and you're just taking the manufacturer's word for it that they're good to go - same as any fire resistant container that doesn't have an actual UL rating. If you do have something worth putting in a real safe, it should also be insured first. If it's truly irreplaceable, and you're truly worried about skilled burglars, there is absolutely no substitute for a TL rating.

For fun, a UL TL-30 test:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtbGUbeM860

TL-15/TL-30 being 15 and 30 minute durations, they let loose two skilled technicians with power tools and see if they can get in within those time periods. It's obviously a synthetic set of criteria to a certain extent, but it represents skilled attackers with any kind of man-portable tool that such an attacker might bring to bear. I believe the test attackers also study the safe ahead of time, and they bust safes open for a living, so you're really getting the worst case.

Edit - here's another one where they start right off with the gouger:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G9IF9IRFI0

 

We have got this one, same features as you, no complaints and it works fine and is easy to move.

I have a slew of tools that I could break into it with but that wasnt really our concern

SentrySafe Fireproof and Waterproof Lock Box with Key Lock, File Safe with Carrying Handles for Documents, 0.66 Cubic Feet, 14.1 x 16.6 x 13.8"es, FHW40100

https://www.amazon.com/SentrySafe-FHW40220-Fireproof-Waterproof-Lock/dp/B00KOO599O?crid=1TQV7OL5SZKVZ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.7WaiM3IRmVTva7Lpcbp3xN_H0e9VIY-BBa9-apONk0z4JlxZ2G3e6lF6_XoeciDnUZOvRSOk9FL_SYJoY2F4101kaXnMZcNbyG8WxL-mOxuTc5KbGj5DLfPkbbNNsqBLMGXGO0ibnXc5gxh0bvshcD3MO-G4YD4OSAdpiMQkQd3ytRnXcKFFNTBUczNuTXh4NnztXd0wanwEuioIU3vNCY6X2esAYVMD_3_G2L7hYsHrcfvpdlp7CS6DoXqDJTMVzNCZcMbnv3XTNse9OOmNOAJAlDU0SmYg-c1KZmeb7eD-7Dx7By1ck38X8RDzk55vH98iRaDHZ_JWD8_9noNlQ6FiyB269H2-Bt_7XDYMRF3kPE_xgjBf4N5PDICnrSlJd3KSN8s9ST2tidC94ohAyl734QDZeEjdLQQIYgOppO6pWx5NwQD6Z2tGhviXxmjK.9h9OwPNP7vdI8i1fHY51E7nskcbpyU96JvEAy9Y2dR0&dib_tag=se&keywords=sentrysafe+FHW40100&qid=1739289200&sprefix=sentrysafe+fhw40100%2Caps%2C275&sr=8-1&th=1

 

Thanks Dean...everything I'd need to know.
Good prices on Amazon, they've got a Fire King UL3550 .6CF at $178

 

Good info. Thanks!

 

Can you mount it to the wall?

Link? I'm not seeing it

 

Just like screw it to the wall so it cant be just picked up? I can take a look tonight. We dont really keep any valuables in it, its mostly just there for fire protection

 

Sent you a text

 

The next sound you'd hear from me is me retrieving a hammer and bashing that shit in like Buddy's gang at Darnell's Garage..

 

Ours is in my wife's 8' x 10' walk in closet. Anyone who goes in there will be lost for months.

 

No you cannot without some creativity. Theres just paperwork and storage drives in there that nobody would want.

 

That sucks. I've got family all around but none in Chicago, sorry. I hope someone can help them out!

 

Got it sorted, thanks. O'Hare has no Western Union, no Amex lounge, not a single micro bank branch, no way to contact anyone who physically works there except the cops and the foreign currency exchange sharks, who were unable to take a wire or a credit card over the phone. What a backwater.

 

That's pretty crazy, especially when you consider the size of that airport!

 

The storm has begun here. My driveway is a mess, probably 2" of rock hard ice. It'll be fun to clear the snow that falls on it!

 

Been to O'Hare a couple times. Place is freaking huge.

 

Boy did I do a bonehead move today.

Made some poor estimations and high centered myself on a plow berm, thinking I'd be able to push through it. I would have been fine except my dumb ass neglected to think that there would be a fat core of ice in it, as it hadn't been disturbed in quite a long time, weeks at least.

That's why we keep a snow shovel, a long pinch bar, and a little axe in the truck, so we can dig a tunnel to the undercarriage and chop out the iceberg. I would have winched myself but the only thing in reach was a timberframe gazebo and it wasn't that kind of emergency, and I didn't want to drive a picket line into what is, past the berm and underneath the snow, an extremely heavily packed gravel parking lot.

By the time I was out I was so gassed I didn't want to snowshoe anymore.

 

The snow banks right now are like concrete. I tried parking on top of one last night at a restaurant expecting it to crush under the tires and it didn’t even budge.

 

Laziness alert.

Anyone know of a reasonably priced bag that would fit in the driver size cubby that is both waterproof / cut resistant? I had stored my ratchet straps in a gallon Ziploc in there thinking that would keep them dry and when I last pulled them open I noticed they were just full of water and rusted solid since the straps cut through the Ziplocs.

In the olden days they'd go in the cubbies under the back seats but with car seats I'd like quicker access. I've done exactly zero looking but I'm curious if someone has had any luck.