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Yet another question on lifting a taco

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Sacul_reab, Feb 16, 2025.

  1. Feb 17, 2025 at 4:41 PM
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    You may already know this but if you are trying to get more ground clearance, you won't achieve it with a lift. Your diffs will still be the same height off of the ground after the lift as the only thing that changes that is the tire size. I don't believe that adding sliders, steel bumper and a backflip will overwhelm the stock suspension either. If you just want the lift, well, because you want a lift then cool.
     
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  2. Feb 17, 2025 at 4:44 PM
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    A lift will increase your angle of approach, your breakover angle, your angle of departure, and your ground clearance under the front differential, even with the same tire size. It will basically increase your ground clearance for everything, except your rear axle.
     
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  3. Feb 17, 2025 at 4:54 PM
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    Pretty sure ARB Old Man Emu have a good reputation, but most members have better luck with a 2" Bilstein 5100 lift. As the the lift in the rear, you could go AAL, or a 1" block. Comes down to whether you carry a lot of weight in the box. I don't, but I have a rear steel bumper, and it hasn't changed anything one iota with my 1" block. No regrets there.

    Good luck OP, and yes lifts are cool. Fun to drive in deep snow storms, and forging water that's too deep for your average car.
     
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  4. Feb 17, 2025 at 6:43 PM
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    I have a Detroit Truetrac limited slip differential in my 2022 sr5. unless you’re a hard wheeler, go with the Truetrac. I can’t recommend it enough, it’s by far my favorite mod I’ve done. Buttery smooth, no chirping, durable, no maintenance, no wires to run, no activating and deactivating, and extremely capable. It’ll never one leg if both wheels are on the ground, like if you’re in sand, mud, dirt, snow, pavement, etc, so if your experiencing one wheel peels you can say goodbye to that. If one wheel is in the air (where a locker would be useful and a limited slip would just one leg) just press the auto lsd traction button and as soon as the truck applies resistance to the spinning wheel the Truetrac locks hard. I highly discourage against a lunchbox locker as they make daily driving annoying with clicking every time you make a turn. I’m not sure Truetracs are so unpopular in the Tacoma world but it’s really a hidden gem
     
  5. Feb 17, 2025 at 7:04 PM
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    It's a spacer lift.
    For that price years ago. I've got aal, assembled coil overs with ome 885 on 5100.
    The 1st kit you shared as way better than 2nd
     
  7. Feb 17, 2025 at 7:31 PM
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    how about the lower control arms?
     
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  8. Feb 17, 2025 at 7:35 PM
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    I had a lift put on my 2018 last week. Went with Bilstein 6112's in the front, and 5100's in the back. Due to a mix up in communication they only made the lift 1/2".

    Their redoing it this Wed, they set my front shocks at 7 and 5. Their moving them to 10-8 and adding a 1" block to the rear.

    [​IMG]
     
  9. Feb 17, 2025 at 8:02 PM
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    Haha, how about which part of the lower control arms? At least it moves the fragile alignment tab ends farther from the ground.
     
  10. Feb 17, 2025 at 8:08 PM
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    the lowest part, we are talking about ground clearance
     
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    “I’m mad because the lift didn’t make my Tacoma an airplane.”
     
  12. Feb 17, 2025 at 8:12 PM
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    thats your answer?
     
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    If you are regularly banging the tire side of your LCA you are driving the wrong line.
     
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  14. Feb 17, 2025 at 8:16 PM
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    so the lift dont matter but only the line matters?
     
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    It’s actually better to lower your truck to drive offroad. Better yet, take a Corolla.
     
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    how about the lower control arms?
     
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    Looking at some of the other complete kits is where I get confused. So for example, https://www.tacomalifestyle.com/col...1-5-3-suspension-kit-4x4-double-cab-short-bed.

    Does this kit give a 1.5" lift by default, with stock weight ratings, and then if you want more lift or weight rating you pick the extras? If you're just going for lift, and not wanting to upgrade load capacity, what's the point of getting new leaf springs over stock then, why not just use blocks in the rear? If that's the case couldn't a guy just do something like this https://www.tacomalifestyle.com/col...it-double-cab-short-bed-with-quick-ride-rear?

    If you get new shocks and struts for a two inch lift, I'm guessing you need blocks for the back end to help bring it up to height? Do you need coils then?
     
  18. Feb 18, 2025 at 8:01 AM
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    Those Dobinson’s are like OME. If you pick the wrong coil from the drop-down menu and get the wrong ride height, you have to buy new coils. Adjustable height coilovers are more forgiving to mistakes or changes of mind.
     
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    Don't forget, taller tires equal taller lift!
     
  20. Feb 19, 2025 at 12:30 PM
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    I just thought of this: You can make your OME Nitrochargers “extended travel.” The compressed length on Nitrochargers is ~1” shorter than Bilsteins, so you can add a 1 inch spacer on the top of your Nitrochargers and they will still have enough room to compress to hit the bumpstops, and will extend into the “extended travel” range.

    I say this with three caveats: First, it would be prudent to measure the compressed length of your Nitrochargers yourself — compress them off the truck and without the coil installed — to verify they compress as short as they say. They need to compress to about 16 5/8 inches or shorter. That will leave you with enough margin to put that 1” spacer on top without problems.

    Second, it may be tempting to put an even larger spacer on top for more downtravel, but don’t. I played with putting a spacer on my Bilstein 6112’s, which extend about an inch more than the Nitrochargers, and I found that my UCA’s would bang into my coil springs at full extension, along with some other interference issues at full steering lock. So 1 inch spacers should give you “extended travel” equivalent to other extended travel shocks on the market, but don’t go taller than that.

    The third caveat regards lift: adding 1” spacers will give you almost ~1.75” more lift at the wheel than you currently have, which will be too much. So you will have to swap out your current coil springs for something that gives you less lift.

    I believe the 2884 coils are the shortest “officially” spec’d coils for 2nd/3rd gen Tacomas, but lots of people (myself included, when I had Nitrochargers) have run 2883 coils without problem. 83’s are an inch shorter than 87’s, so likely what you need to maintain a similar ride height after installing 1 inch spacers. Good luck!
     
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