Fuel tank size

Renting might be a great idea. Then there are no surprises.

 

This truck is heads above the old 3rd gen. Mine was a great truck, but this is much better.

People complain about the range. But what they are really complaining about –in my opinion– is what the gauge predicts it to be.

On the highway, I get 23-24 MPGs. 23 x 18.2 is 418.

About the same that I got on my third-gen. When my gauge reads 0, I've got about two and half gallons left.

 

See above. My point has been proven with just one other post. One person is getting 23. Another (me) is getting 15. That is a huge difference so that is why I suggested renting one first to see where your driving would fit in based on your needs.

 

When you drive your wife's '24 Camry what king of mpg do you get?

 

I get 40+ in my wife's 25 Camry. It's nice to have a high MPG vehicle option for long road trips, especially for work when you get reimbursed.

 

Looking to compare driving styles with mpg. You have a TH right? What mpg do you get from the TH?

 

Just an OR and I have no idea. My daily commute is 4 miles roundtrip so I don't pay attention.

 

We usually go 3 hrs then stop. Sometimes 2 when nature calls and other times 4 when things just go good.

 

Yeah I don't understand the MPG numbers that people report. Some people are reporting numbers so astronomically high it makes me wonder if they've unlocked some sort of cheat mode on thermodynamic laws.

I get in the lower end, usually around 18s mpg highway for the OR. I had a softopper deployed out on the truck for a while and that just gutted my gas mileage. Dropped it by 20%. Completely stock otherwise.

And forget towing anywhere remote. You're just going to kill the gas mileage. It'll take hauling jerrycans of fuel or maybe a red marine style tank with a pump.

 

I am in the camp that the tank on the 4th gen is too small. IMO it should have been the same as the 2nd gen 21.0 gallons at a minimum, better yet 24 or 25. This thread is a very similar discussion to ones I have had on EV forums, with all the comments that you have to stop to pee/eat, etc. anyway. But no, you don't. When I road trip I go. I bring food and water, so quick 3 minute stops to pee at Interstate rest stops are the norm. So, having longer range saves me a lot of time. I could push my old 2nd gen 350-375 miles before needing gas and I was OK with that. But I have been spoiled by my Tundra's 600 mile range. Could I live with the 4th gen Tacoma's range. Yes, but it isn't ideal and could easily be so much better.

 

Everybody brings food and water. Everyone has to pee. Found out I am more efficient waiting to pee and tank up at the same time, instead of pee and then half hour stopping again to tank up. I became more efficient long range travel wise. I never stopped at a rest stop to just pee this last trip. Too inefficient.

The people who daily drive for work have the most valid complaint, IMHO. Cycles become much shorter. Hope there is an aftermarket solution for them. Toyota won't likely fix it in this generation. They did all that exhaust pipe routing for a reason.

And that reason is probably consumer surveys. I just completed one from Toyota. They were really interested in where I thought the filler door and charger door for a Toyota plug in hybrid truck (PHEV) should be. Passenger or driver. There was a question that pertained to maximum capacity. I made sure to answer in favor of the majority of this forum. I didn't care where the filler doors were. I wanted maximum capacity.

But, TW is not the real world and am not sure where any of the filler/charger doors will end up.

 

200 miles range in a 10 minute charge.
My personal battle cry for a full on EV.
Where are those promised Toyota solid state batteries with the polysilicon imbued anodes allowing such things? Been waiting since 2018 or so.

 

Fuelly is telling me a 2024 TRD-Sport is averaging 18.9 MPG while the '23 TRD-Sport averaged 18.5. So, a tiny bump in MPG that is more than offset by reduced fuel tank capacity. As 3rd gen LB owner, the reduced range and larger turning radius would be hard to overlook when the time comes to trade out of my current ride.

 

I get 21.5 average city in my 24 OR Premium and around 24 highway. It all depends how heavy your foot is.

 

The manufacturer sold out the consumers (us/we) to make the eco evironmentalist movement happy. Its a wonder all these tacos dont have stop/start too.

 

The new platform brings a lot of compromises on the midsize variant you give up interior space for less range, I call that a lose - lose situation. I'm the last person who needs a lot of range I don't road trip travel or vacation, I don't want to sit behind the wheel for over an hour. I still prefer more capacity from the tank if I can get it. Toyota's GAF dose not down size well into the midsize segment. The Tundra already seems like the obvious choice when compared to the Tacoma. Compare the Tacoma along with it's short comings against the competition, overall size, interior room, choice of powertrains, GM only offers 1 engine but it makes more power, and mpg. I'm not saying the competition is better, but in those comparisons Toyota does not come out ahead. I find myself asking why would I want to purchase a Tacoma overcany other truck on the market? I can't come up with an answer.

Is the Tacoma a bad truck? I don't think so, I still gravitate to a XC Tacoma being my next truck.

 

They all did. And they're loosing billions on the EV debacle which is one reason why ICE vehicles are so expensive. They need to make up some of that lost money. As far as Stop/Start, the 2WD has it. But I discovered they did us a favor. If you forget to hit the off button, the S/S doesn't activate unless you press hard on the brake when you stop. I get a message on the dash when I stop advising me of this.

 

After over a year of researching all the mid-size, being on their Forums to see what the problems were and owner satisfaction or lack thereof and driving most of them, I discovered the last thing you should do is rely on advertised statistics to determine which is best or better. The Forums showed fewest problems and most owner satisfaction with the Tacoma and the Ridgeline. The most problems were with the GM's and the Santa Cruz. Nissan fell in the middle. My test driving experiences showed the Tacoma to be best for me. I give the ride, steering, brakes, transmission and engine an "A", Interior "C+", Paint "D-", Body Style "B", Electronics "C", Ease of Maintenance "A". I did find a few things that I really don't like but time will tell if they become serious issues or not.

 

Look underneath and see if you have room around the gas tank.. if so, you can get aftermarket tank if you want but like what others said, it can cut some payload depending on the weight. Or keep the truck for work use such as drive around on the farm or something... get a MPG friendly car such as 40 MPG for daily use.

FYI, I have a 17 as well which you mentioned in your reply. I usually get around that MPG like you said. If you want that, then get a 17 back.

 

funny you say that. I never got rid of it. But when my kid turned 16 he got that truck. I haven’t ruled out grabbing a 2023 with low miles. But I really do like the new trucks. The interior and exterior look like big improvements. I know people seem mixed on the powertrain but I also remember all the haters of the 3G and I have loved mine. I’m sure the 4G will prove to be just as great. I am honestly thinking about upgrading my kid to a new truck as well before he heads to college. I like the thought of him being in a new truck and under warranty when he is out starting his adult life.