Which Tacoma’s have start stop?

I've driven quite a few rentals with Start/Stop and it has worked smoothly, instantaneously, and flawlessly in all of them every time. If the air conditioner is struggling there is logic built in not stop the engine. The starter is beefed up to handle the starts. There is no lag time unless your the douchebag who's masculinity is so fragile you have to try to beat the other cars off the line and you're measuring it down to fractions of a second. I was apprehensive about it the first few times I drove one, but I ran out of reasons to hate it.

 

My BMW from 2015 start stop is seamless. Very smooth. But my Subaru start stop feature shakes the whole car when it starts up again. I got the default cancel off of Amazon to install it on my Subaru to stop this feature.

 

The only cars that have this JUNK are cars I will not buy.
I will not buy any vehicle with a push-button-start either.

Engines rely on fluids to keep cool - in Phoenix, where 110+ is the norm, I can only imagine the damage
this is doing to triple-hot-engines in stop-and-go traffic. Never mind the starter being used over and over and over....
All to save 12 ounces of gas over the life of a tank?
Thank-you-no....

 

Wow…you clearly have no idea how it works.

 

So don't buy a hybrid.

I don't understand what you have against push-button start, though. It's not like that tech is new or has proven unreliable. Sure, it answers a question nobody asked, but it doesn't hurt anything.

 

The 4WD do not have SS. The 2WD do have SS except of course for the manual trans. My SR5 2WD has S/S. That's why I almost went with 4WD even though I don't need it. But the saving grace is that on the 2WD with SS, the SS will not engage unless you press on the brake hard when you come to a stop. You will even get a message on the instrument cluster telling you this if you come to a normal stop at a light and the engine is still running.

 

Nothing wrong with push to start. I personally prefer a physical key, nobody else can hack in to the truck and start it. I also don't like the fobs reguired the fob batteries only last me about 2 years. If I have to turn the fob off to preserve power, and prevent someone else from using that fob remotely. I'd rather have a key because I'm doing extra things to disable the fob there goes all the time saved and convince of having PTS. I also want to eliminate as many frequencies going to the vehicles and things that are drawing power from the 12v battery.

Considering the question asked in the thread. Could Toyota just eliminate the Auto Start Stop on gas trucks? I think the majority of customers would prefer it that way. How much fuel is really being saved in that gas tank that people would rather see have more capacity?

 

My guess is that we won't see any of the manufacturers doing away with it unless they find alternatives to hit the CAFE standards that cost less to implement, or those standards are drastically changed downward so its unnecessary and they can remove that cost from the vehicle.

Back to the OP question, I do find it strange that the 2WD SR5 and the Limited models with their full time AWD/4WD system has the auto stop/start, but not the regular 4WD models. I'm glad for that, as I have the SR5 4x4, but I wonder what prevented them from putting it on the regular 4x4 models as well? My Chevy that had Auto s/s was a 4x4 so I wouldn't think its something necessarily due to that alone, but definitely could be wrong about that, or perhaps Toyota's 4x4 engagement makes the auto s/s more costly to engineer into the truck(?)

 

I believe the only tacoma with full time AWD is the iforcemax limited. Gas limited is part time 4wd, but not identical to the PT4wd on TRD-OR non-hybrid, e.g. no crawl control on limited.
2025 4runners are different and both the gas and hybrid limited have full time awd. No idea why they varied things across models but comparable trims.

 

Full article here: https://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/features/do-stop-start-systems-really-save-fuel.html

TLDR: Auto Stop/Start saves about 10% and those savings aren't included in the EPA ratings. Savings go down to 3% with AC on, could be more savings if there is more stop time in your stop & go traffic. Hybrids have an inverter AC compressor so you can probably go 5-10 minutes (depending on OAT) before engine turns back on. They will get all/most of that 10% savings.

 

I keeping reading about the start/stop function and some of my friends have them on their vehicles. All I can say is what a waste, stressing the started for supposedly better mpg. Would have been a deal breaker for me if my OR had the feature (unless i had the option to shut it off).

 

It's a heavy duty starter designed for this and the "supposed" better mpg was tested to be relevant, but if you don't want it either don't use it or don't buy it.

 

I don't think Offroading would be fun if the engine shut off every time you come to a complete stop it would probably be dangerous. I can't recall does 4G have OR have a different braking system like prior OR trucks? I think all that has been answered and I've forgotten the answer.

I don't think anybody is passing up new vehicles due to the absence of the Auto Start Stop feauture. I used to think ASS might be a good thing to preserve fuel after seeing it implemented and driving something with ASS, I quickly found out it's not.

 

Because pushing a button to disable the feature is so hard to do? Admittedly, it resets when you shut down and restart (manually, not during auto stop/start). Push it once when you go off-road and your driving a non-ASS vehicle.

 

Which is why the 4WD models don't have it. Pull up any dealership on CarGurus.com and look at the interior photos of 2WD and 4WD. You'll see the button on the 2WD automatics but not the 4WD and manual trans.

 

I don’t even know that it answers a question nobody asked. I don’t carry keys anymore thanks to push button start. It’s pretty great to leave keys behind entirely, not need to take them out of a bag or purse, not scratch the steering column, etc.

 

Don't want, don't need it, and it's an added expensive for the manufacturer. It's a feature that makes no sense.

 

It makes a lot of sense to a manufacturer, which is why many models come with it

 

Got to go back into your Time Machine and go back home to 1990.