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Loading the bed on a OR DCSB 4wd

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Steves55, Mar 21, 2025.

  1. Mar 21, 2025 at 4:39 PM
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    Steves55

    Steves55 [OP] Well-Known Member

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    I'm a bit disappointed in the hauling capabilities of this truck. I loaded boxes of stacked stone in my truck. Weight of all the stone is 780 lbs.
    Truck is a stock OR
    No racks, tents or anything else.
    This thing is bottoming out in rear slow rolling over speed bumps.

    My other truck- a 2009 Prerunner OR access cab w/ 6 ft bed hauled the same stone but alot more of it, Probably 1100 lbs & never bottomed out like this one.
    Both loads were on pallets & centered over rear axle.

    Ideas?
    Maybe some defective factory leaf springs?

    If I have to add something in rear suspension, I prefer to not change ride quality when empty or have the ass end up in the air. Maybe a helper spring that doesn't come into play until you hit 500 lbs or so.
     
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  2. Mar 21, 2025 at 5:10 PM
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    The GVWR remains the same. The heavier your truck is the less payload you have. Your 09 was a few hundred pounds lighter truck, it could haul more weight. There is a sticker on your driver's door jamb with a statement on it that reads something like "The combined weight of passengers and cargo should not exceed XXXX lbs". The exact number varies depending on the truck, so you just have to look at your truck's sticker. They are all a bit different depending on how the truck is equipped.

    Tacoma's have laughably low payload numbers. A 4X4 DC can be as low as 900 lbs and I don't think I've seen a 3rd gen over 1100 lbs. 780 lbs in the bed plus the weight of a driver and you're overloaded.

    For reference Honda Ridgeline and Ranger will have 1500-1600 lbs of payload for the same 4X4 DC.

    Anything you do to modify the suspension doesn't change your payload. In fact, it just hides the problem. If you want to haul any real weight, I suggest a utility trailer. I can carry more weight and volume in my 6X10 trailer than I could carry in the bed of an 8' 3/4 ton truck. And a Tacoma pulls it with ease.
     
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  4. Mar 21, 2025 at 6:21 PM
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    Stock suspension blows if you plan on carrying stuff. I added the blue SUMOs and liked the better ride. I bought a road active suspension opposed to add a leaf. Waiting for the weather to break to install it. If I could do it over I would have got the black SUMOs but the blue ones are fine. I have maybe 300lbs in the bed between the topper and some tools. Does not leave much more capacity. I won't go over but the ride quality is severely lessened as you close in on that max cargo capacity number. All I want is the same or similar ride up to that number.
     
  5. Mar 21, 2025 at 6:44 PM
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    These trucks are not for hauling anything more than grocery bags full of diapers. They are for off-roading. That is where they shine. Get a trailer or a full size truck.
     
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  6. Mar 21, 2025 at 6:55 PM
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    OnHartung'sRoad

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    Install a single Deaver add a leaf, keep the overload leaf in and add some longer shocks like 5100’s.
     
  7. Mar 21, 2025 at 7:01 PM
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    Have to agree but it can be made better
     
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    These trucks are made for driving on the highway to work and buying groceries. Off-roading is simply a marketing tool to attract people who want to think they’re buying something to go live their dreams that will never happen.
     
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  9. Mar 21, 2025 at 7:40 PM
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    I agree with you for the most part, but I think mid sized trucks like the taco also offer better towing capacity, the utility of a pickup bed, body on frame construction, general ruggedness, part time 4wd, solid axle rear suspension, and increased clearance compared to cross over SUVs, sedans, etc.
     
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    I don't think they're as useless as you say. You dont sell millions if they're not meeting the expectations of the customer. These are capable do everything just good enough trucks.
     
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    Oh yeah, never said they’re useless, they just definitely aren’t some built for offroad truck. They’re a basic mass market truck that does enough things well enough to make most people happy.
     
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    That's a fair bit of weight in the bed of a mid sized truck. Once you add your weight odds are your over gvm. Now here's the thing the truck itself can handle the weight ok but the stock leaf pack is designed for comfort not holding up weight. As I have said before these leafs flatten if you look at them wrong. Nearly 800lbs of rock is not going to do them any favours
     
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    The plan was to have materials delivered but they cancelled & re-scheduled for 3rd time. I had to go get it if I want a happy customer. Last minute decision. I don't normally haul shit this heavy.
    However, if I'm right at or near payload, it shouldn't be squatting & bottoming out the suspension. It's very un nerving when it bottoms out, feels like I'm going to break something.
    The 09 was different (also stock suspension). Even overloaded by hundreds, it never bottomed out.
    This truck is 2 yrs old & has 8200 miles.
     
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    If you add 4-wheel drive it weighs 250 pounds. Add over 100 pounds for a double cab. Add up things like a bed mat and you can carry even less. Pretty soon you wind up like me with a payload of something like 960 pounds. People in the truck make it less able.
     
  16. Mar 22, 2025 at 6:44 AM
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    Tacomas aren't really trucks in the traditional sense...more like a 4runner with a bald spot behind the seats.
     
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    The lightest 3rd Gen model is a couple hundred lbs heavier than the heaviest 2nd Gen model. If Toyota kept the leafs strength and size basically the same between Gens, then the 3rd's cap will be less.
     
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    I'd also like to point out that the third gens bump stops are hard as a rock.
     
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    I run my 23' Off-road long bed near the max payload when pulling my travel trailer. There is very little sag when loaded due to the Active Suspension I added. There is a very smooth ride when unloaded, unlike the air bags I added first then removed because of the ridiculously harsh ride with no load.

    There are no issues off road with the system.

    I have no affiliation with the company, other than being a very pleased customer.

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    I think RAS is about the only thing I've never (passively) encountered bad reviews on relative to adding load capacity to the rear..which is funny considering it's the most tacked on looking arrangement. If I ever go with a constant load out back I'd probably start there.
     
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