Long Travel BS Thread

I’m going to give you the same push back amigo, you’re making very broad generalizations which tends to make people think you are exaggerating. You expect anyone to believe that “ every product did not fit “ ?

If it is true it seems like you would easily be able to provide specifics…?

Did you contact them and did they offer to resolve your concerns ?

 

I'm in lake Tahoe but I got a shop in chico. Where are you at?

 

I live in Lakeport. Next to Clearlake

 

I thought this was the long travel BS thread? I’m here for the BS so let’s keep it coming @906taco. I don’t have FB but follow you on IG. I also do have several JD parts on my taco and your overall experience has opened my eyes to a bigger picture. I too hope that these issues are not widespread as I am often out with my wife and now newborn and the thought of any part having a catastrophic failure is scary, JDf or other. I may not wheel as hard as you or others on this forum (and those not on socials) but failures can happen just driving down the road and not wide open on the trails. So thank you for the insight even though you’re getting backlash.

 

I'm working on a trip down there for speed metal. My brother and I gonna tow both our trucks down and hopefully hit up Barstow as well

 

That's dope. I just drove by clear lake on my way to fort Bragg for a camping trip

 

I consulted with so many friends before jumping down this worm hole. From mentors of everyday life to people I’ve been friends with for decades in the automotive and welding industry. They all thought it was the right thing to do. I’m used to having a highly unpopular point of view. Seemingly I’m good at finding it. And that’s fine.

But if I’m out playing in this truck I’m with my wife, my dad or maybe a good friend. And I simply cannot stomach something happening to them over a shady part I put on my vehicle. Nor can I stomach potentially hurting someone not even involved.

One friend pointed out that many times doing the morally correct thing pisses people off. But that’s when you know you did the right thing. We’ve made it to the pissing people off stage.

I appreciate the support and understanding from the ones that truly get it. It seriously means a ton to have some backup. There is a compilation of well over 100 years combined structural welding (professionally) experience backing me right now. And THAT tells me what I need to know.

 

Dude just post it all. It’s worth laying all the cards out on the table in a situation like this.

it’s a little asinine to say that just because a company has had a good reputation for 25 years, doesn’t mean they can’t go to hell. not sure if you guys are gun guys or not, but look at STI. STI used to make the most pimp 2011’s out there(the old school ones still fetch between 5 and 10k in the right spec), but now they sold out, and mass produce dogshit 2011’s under the name staccato.

I don’t think anyone’s saying that JD has always and will always make shitty parts, I think it’s more fair to say that there seems to be some batches that have serious QC issues, and for JD to not own up to it and just own the fact that they have some dangerous shit out there? Makes me question the stuff I have from them, and rightfully so! I, like many of you, don’t want to die in my fucking truck. I had a scary incident, of my LBJ bolts backing out, luckily in a parking lot at 1mph, but this was directly after a highway drive at 65mph.

it’s easy enough to bash a company when it’s popular, but the way it seems like they handled it, doubling down on their mistakes, speaks volumes.

edit:
Also for what it’s worth, I don’t think you have anything to lose by posting anything, I mean you built a really expensive truck, I don’t think you’ll be hurting financially by not getting a refund on your JD parts. Their balls are in your court

 

You sound sad man. Your 100 plus years of backing is bs. You talk a lot of I know it all and that’s it.

 

Did you happen to tell your friends while contemplating morality that the shop had in fact offered you full refunds on multiple occasions and that you turned it down every time and made the choice to hold onto parts that you were not satisfied with ?

So, to recap...every part that you were dissatisfied with every step of the way the shop offered a full refund for and you chose not to accept their offer. You continued to use some of the the parts, completely removed some parts and put them on a shelf and then a year later pull the parts off of your shelf that you could have received a refund for & your not even using anymore, not give them a call ( at which point they probably would have offered you a refund again ) and bring it all up again in a big way. Then when the owner calls you you insinuate that he doesn’t care but still offers you a full refund ?

Just want to make sure all of the facts from both sides are getting on the record.

And again...I have no dog in the fight and I would be as adamantly defending any company that you had been interacting with in the manner that you have been. You have used generalized statements

edit - this got cut off somehow so i finished it

-on a ton of occasions, gone straight for the throat and it is clear that you love to create drama for attention. You constantly ignore questions that challenge your delusions. It is clinical narcissism trying to constantly elevate yourself by knocking down others. I can only hope that karma is paid back in full to your business someday. Going after any small business in the manner that you have is completely psychotic.

To recap - you buy parts from a small business, you have some probs, they own it ( even though at that point it is highly questionable) they offer to eat it completely via refund, you have another prob they offer a full refund again, you experience a failure, they offer a refund again, you pull the parts put them on a shelf then a year later bring it up again bit don’t contact anyone, they get a little PO’d when they hear about and reach out you and offer you a refund again…” still not good enough must try to destroy this business “

and you think your not doing so and wonder why they would say that and get offended by it but with a couple hours the internet is working its magic and miopic imbeciles with zero background info read your BS and repeat it and start bashing the business too…good on ya’ dude hope you can sleep good at night

 

Can't we all just get along

 

No, not when people are known-it alls. I’m done

 

how exactly has JD not owned up to it ? how did they double down on mistakes ? see my post above. they have been talking to him “ owning it “ and offering refunds for a very long time which he repeatedly refused.

there are multiple examples of them “owning “ average every day issues and going miles out of their way to help customers but you read one thing from one emotionally unstable nightmare customer on this forum and swallow the hook and pile on more inaccurate bullshit.

 

But bro, refund or not, there are still some fucked parts out there installed on peoples trucks, who are ignorant to the fact that their parts might be bad. It’s one thing to know they’re bad and chose to use them anyways, that’s kinda on the user, but to not disclose it and handle it the way they’re handling it is not cool.

Although it would suck, it would make a lot of sense if JD came out and said that the parts manufactured from xyz date and time to xyz date and time, could be faulty, but send us the parts back and we will replace them for you at no cost. This puts it all on the owner/user. If you are too lazy to pull the parts off and have them inspected or replaced, that shifts the liability to the user. But @906taco is right here. They’re lucky no one died, because this discussion would go an entirely different direction if that were the case, whether or not a refund was offered. I don’t think “but we offered them a refund” would hold up very well in a lawsuit.

 

owning it isn’t offering a refund.

 

Also being totally frank here, if It were me with this failure, or a failure of any other part given that I didn’t cause it, I would’ve thrown that shit in the trash, not tested, not have had empirical data or tried to get empirical data on said failure, and still would’ve trashed said company. Atleast the due diligence is being done.

 

Speed Metal is alright. Hopefully ya'll will run the course. I only watched last year. Which the drive back made me want to sell the Tacoma. That was the shittiest drive ever back to Flag from there. I will say with my family the larger truck has made things a lot easier and more comfortable though.

I had my share of hiccups with the JD stuff. To where if I didnt sell it I wanted to completely go to a different kit.
But I think some of the there stuff is still good and has a good use. Like the battery box. Thats pretty slick and easy to make work.

 

how the fuck is a business supposed to identify an issue if a customer does not accept a refund and return the items to be looked at ?

it is fucking critical to understand that the only known thing at the the time of the failure is that he had basically crashed at 60 mph offroad stuffed a tire in a rut i believe was the story which caused the failure ! the part did not fail all on its own did you understand that part of this shit show ?

they heard about the damaged part after he stuffed it at 60 and still offered a refund

 

I had issues getting the right length tie rods for my slide rack, and the inners I’m running from them I’m not super impressed with, but they get the job done.

 

Well, reading the post and everything said, it doesn’t sound like JD asked for the parts back.

it is, however, pretty easy to see when he purchased the rack, see who would’ve produced it, and draw the conclusion that some of the parts produced by said person may or may not be good parts.

no need to get hoes mad over this. It’s not that deep.