Long Travel BS Thread

again only partial information being provided you don’t even have a JD kit ! you have a BTF kit and you were mixing parts from two different kits and somehow that is their fault !?

please expand on how your not impressed with the inners…

 

if you were the business owner and a customer crashed at 60 in dirt and a part broke would you in any way assume your part had “ failed “ via a qc issue ?

 

I was going to enter to run the course in the cageless class, but $230 is insane for a little dirt course. I'll come to watch and break my truck in the desert for free haha

 

yesh except for the fact that when I ordered it, they told me that they had a truck with the exact same kit in their shop getting a slide rack, and would send me the same length tie rods. When I got them and they were too short, they asked me if I was sure my kit was a 4.5 kit, and said, we don’t normally exchange custom parts, but we’ll do it this one time, as if I wasn’t entitled to receiving the correct product I had paid for. Even so, I still thanked them and shared my praises with my experience in my thread.

as for the inners, they don’t fit great. They don’t fit my glass great. They don’t fit my hood great. And sure, some of that comes down to the install, but I’m not gonna ask for 100 man hours to be put into fitting a set of inner fenders. Like I said, it’s not a big deal, I’m just not super impressed by them. There could probably be a better way to index them to the firewall and core support that would make them fit a lot faster and cleaner. They do the job fine though.

 

If said part that broke, caused the issue and crash, and I know said part was produced when a sub par fabricator was putting stuff together, yeah, I would feel pretty safe in assuming that my part caused the failure. And who cares??? An attorney isn’t gonna. An attorney will see carelessness, snd a refusal to make right by the customer.

maybe this will help you understand just a little bit. Let’s say a major automotive manufacturer, like Toyota, knows for a fact that a certain their seatbelt retractors don’t work/are faulty. But instead of introducing a RECALL, to repair or replace said parts BEFORE a failure occurred, they just offer the customer a refund after they got in a crash.

ultimately, recall or not, it’s up to the customer to take their car in and take care of the recall. It’s a liability thing.

does that make more sense to you?

 

Updated parts sale list for anyone shopping

 

Hey man, can’t you see we’re having a super productful conversation, and you’re waltzing in here selling some shit actually pertaining to the topic of the thread?

 

All with in the last 16 months i have completely went from an Icon stage 10 mid travel to JD Fabs 2.25 LT along with just about every product JD offers. Deciding to go with JD fabs products was an easy choice. With all the positive replies to my inquiries to many on Instagram and TW i chose to go all in with JD fabs products and installation. I never read or heard of any product failures or anyone not happy with JD's customer service. Getting to know Jesse over the last 1.5 years he has been great to deal with and is ready to help me with anything I throw at him. Like my RTT rack failure. He quickly replied to my request for help and made the rack better than new in a short time. My truck has been well taken care of while in his shop numerous times for for weeks at a time. I love my new setup from JD my truck drives better than ever runs circles around my mid travel kit. So yes I am proudly a JD Fab Fan Boy but that's only because I trust Jesse and his crew and will gladly recommend his work and products to anyone who ask's. I know Jesse isn't the kind of person or business man that would purposely put out a shady product to his customers. If he was anything like that he would not have lasted as long as he has. I might have a different opinion if we were hearing from multiple customers of product failures but we dont. We hear quite the opposite positive feedback both on a customer service and products. I will continue to support JD Fab and use any new products in the future. I do understand Cory's concerns but it sounds like Jesse did try to correct any problems or offer a refund. I think we all take on a certain risk when we start chopping up an OEM truck and adding these incredible mods to make our trucks more capable. We than push these trucks to incredible limits.

 

No one is trying to question if JD is genuinely trying to screw people over. I don’t think anyone believes that. I’m sure 95% of their stuff is great and fine, I’m just making the argument that their might have been a point in time where their stuff didn’t live up to what was promised, and that should be made known to the customers in a way where they understand the risk they’re taking by installing affected parts, especially because they’re safety critical parts, usually. You’re pretty much spot on with everything though. It’s a risky game you play chopping up a stock truck liability wise. You gotta take the liability on if you hurt someone with your truck. Another good example coming to mind, is a Glock 19. If you take a Glock 19, and shoot somebody in the chest with it, you should definitely be held liable for that. Now let’s say you took said G19 to the range, and the gun fucking explodes in your hand because of a manufacturing error from a bad batch, yeah, the manufacturer should absolutely be liable for this. It shouldn’t take losing both of your hands to be offered a GOOD solution. A refund after my hands are blown off doesn’t do me a whole lot of good.


You can go back and read through my thread, I was happy as a clam with their stuff, and still am for the most part. I just disagree with how this particular situation was handled.

Companies that go out of their way to screw people over with no explanation don’t last long. Look at Evil Offroad for example. Even people who aren’t into off-roading like we are know who evil is, especially the negative connotations associated with them.

 

did you read my previous post though ? in this case the facts via corey’s own post was that he stuffed his truck at 60 mph at which point the failure occurred and then he almost or did blow through a turn because it locked up THE FAILURE HAPPENED AS A RESULT OF A HIGH SPEED MASSIVE IMPACT

that is why all of his narcissistic dramatic bullshit about having family members in the truck on the highway and feeling like they could have died etc seems so fkn nuts it’s not like the part failed driving down the street or ever would have, it happened driving offroad fast and basically crashing

 

Oh I was a lucky one when the EMF failed on me too.
Others had em fail while at speed on trails and it didnt go so well.

Granted, I will say Jesse was leaps and bounds easier to deal with then the other guy.

 

I did read your post, and what are you trying to say? That he was going 60mph and came to an immediate stop? Was it a gradual stop? Was it under steer into a ditch? There’s a lot of context missing from that story, so much so that really a dash cam would be the only real way to analyze it empirically. You’re basing your entire point on the fact that negligence caused this issue, and whether or not that’s true, doesn’t change the fact that the workmanship was subpar.

Sure, putting the truck into a rut at 60 probably isn’t going to be very kind to things in your suspension, but that doesn’t change the fact that the part that failed, had a HUGE manufacturing defect. High speed impact or not, doesn’t change the fact that those welds are trash.

I also want to add, that these parts are marketed for performance Offroad applications, they should hold up to the rigors of said activity. Going fast Offroad belongs in that category.

 

I bent the shit out of @tacotunner06 DD steering at hammers. Surprised the tundra rack wasn't the part that failed. It is easy to break stuff in the Dez. However there is no denying that @906taco 's slide rack has some bad welds. I have a slide rack sitting on the shelf in my shop that I ran pretty hard for a couple years before ripping my truck apart. I haven't touched it in a couple years now. Just collecting dust

 

Dayummmmm mangled that piece like butter. Welds are still holding on though.

 

That's the part the bothers me, destroy the thing with reckless driving and thrashing... Whatever that's on you. But that could have broken at any time really. Those welds got less penetration than a DND group out for a night of clubbing. Dude snapped it off one handed and the cross section cut was atrocious zero depth.

 

Precisely.








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Most likely I’ll be in the Right Seat for the upcoming BITD Silver State 300 thats coming up in a few weeks riding in a 20+ year old JDFab Built Class 8 Truck….should I be scared?

J/K…actually I’m more scared of the Driver since I haven't riding with him yet

 

At this point I’m borderline questioning if you’re dumb, ignorant or just plain trying to make JD look good in about the shittiest light possible.

The part caused the crash, not the other way around. That’s a pretty key point you seem to not understand. Getting real tired of defending this situation.

And even IF a crash caused a failure. You’re still looking over the fact they are absolutely horrendous welds.

 

Discussing this with my wife. She brought up a solid point I hadn’t thought about.

Her terminally ill mother was with us this day. And according to my wife, I backed way off of my normal “play”.

However, she did note her mom was filming from the 3rd seat when it happened. And leading up to it happening.

Let’s see if we can find her old phone now, because I guarantee she didn’t throw it away.

 

Regarding this… my kit had the earlier EMF uniballs and I began to read a small number of customers had issues with them specifically from this forum. I didn’t know how wide spread the issue was and one day I received a call from Jesse. He sternly offered to send me the updated uniballs/balljoints whatever they were, for free, at $0 cost to me. I requested to bring my truck to them out of somewhat more convenience because I didn’t have the proper tools/knowledge to perform the swap on my own. He scheduled it for me, at my earliest convenience, no problem. They even swapped my front coilovers while my truck was there. Again, at $0 cost to me. I believe I did have to pay for a new alignment which was outsourced and I was more than ok paying for that. And my truck was in and out on the same day.
That kind of experience made me feel comfortable taking my truck to them and their willingness to replace parts that were questionable or had the possibility of failing at some point, or maybe never, but they seemed to not want to risk the chance on behalf of the customer.
That being said, I know this is the flip side of the coin from my previous statement. I’m still here for the BS and wanting to take my Tacoma out to the desert to have fun.