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Stuck oil filter housing

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Texas-Gorilla, Feb 22, 2025.

  1. Apr 20, 2025 at 7:41 PM
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    t0p_d0g

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  2. Apr 21, 2025 at 10:58 PM
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    Agree with you. I have done the same for many years for the RAV4, Corolla, Tundra, and now Tacoma.
     
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  3. Apr 22, 2025 at 5:58 AM
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    Pit monkeys with no convolutions in their brain structure don't read simple instructions.

    It's offensive to them.
    They know their version of tight is right in their simpleton minds.

    Picture Lenny da pit monkey "Of Mice and Men" ....
     
  4. Apr 22, 2025 at 12:34 PM
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    Lube techs and porters are the lowest paid bunch at dealerships. Janitors make more than they.

    Toyota Care is a scam. When my wife brought her new 4Runner in for 5000 mile service, they did not change the oil, because it's not "required" according to Toyota Care.
     
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  5. Apr 24, 2025 at 11:03 PM
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    I took my wife's Tacoma for an oil change under The Toyota Care-around 2,000 miles, so all they did was the required 50-point inspection, but no no free oil & filter change change. I decided to have the oil and filter changed at a cost of $125.00. But last week I had Toyota Care to do an oil and filter change under the under the 2-year Toyota Care since it expires in December. I like to replace oil and filters twice per year, one in April, and the other in November, regardless of miles driven. The reason for this is that during the very cold winter there are a great numbers of engine idling hours, specially when trucks and cars are parked outdoors. I take care of oil and filter changes on my own (2013 Tundra, 2010 RAV4 V6 with Mobil 1 and Toyota filters), and soon will be doing the same with my wife's 2023 Tacoma, although everything will be documented and will use Toyota oil and Toyota filters.
     
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  6. Apr 25, 2025 at 5:58 AM
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    Mostly cosmetics.... so far!
    Even after decades of doing my own maintenance and "enhancements" of small & large block V8s and V2s (Harleys), I still watched several How-To videos on changing the oil, since this is my first Toyota... just in case there was something unique. I too had trouble getting the filter housing off. I was wondering what idiot used an impact wrench to tighten this thing on, especially since the local dealer did the first change (hey, it was free). It wasn't until I looked closely did I notice the small lock tab that was catching one of the fins on the filter housing. None of the videos I watched prior to this showed it. I'm also finding interesting that in 5 pages of comments, no one has yet mentioned it, other than a diagram where you can clearly see it. So it leaves me wondering if a majority of these issues with overly tight filter housings are due to not fully disengaging the lock tab.

    Also a little warning for those using Amazon to get a metal replacement. I initially went that route as I'm not to fond of plastic parts for use on a hot engine. The one I received looked a little off. Though it had the hologram sticker on the box, and it was branded as a Toyota part. It didn't look right. So I got one from directly from Toyota and there were some other tell-tale signs such as obvious mold marks and the differences in the "TOYOTA" marking itself. I didn't break out the calipers to see if there were size differences, but I assume that there would be. Though I see many electronic counterfeit items on Amazon, I was not expecting this.
     
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    I had problems removing the filter housing after dealer did the oil change, and I did bend back the metal tab.
     
  9. Apr 25, 2025 at 10:00 AM
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    You will find these 2 videos very helpful. The plastic oil filter housing is quite good but misunderstood.

    https://youtu.be/G_vl2AYe7Yg?si=NMZ7XWDb-y1TWdfs

    https://youtu.be/FVA4RYql9KU?si=ZKcXn0ikmTCTtBqL
     
  10. Apr 25, 2025 at 6:10 PM
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    i used to like this guy because i think he is quite experienced and knowledgeable but after you watch a few of his videos you realize he is just blathering for as long as he can - YouTube $$. he takes forever to say something meaningful or non-obvious. i don't watch anymore.
     
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  11. Apr 25, 2025 at 6:39 PM
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    Stock wheels and suspension. Random "utilitarian" mods featured on this great forum.
    Same here. There used to be some decent content but now it's more about the clicks. I still watch SMA for actual car knowledge.
     
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  12. Apr 25, 2025 at 7:08 PM
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    Thermal expansion is not the reason the oil filter housing is difficult to remove. Not heat cycles. The entire engine heats and expands a bit, and all of it expands within what is scientifically known as basically the same fucking amount.

    Do you really think the engineers that design engines and components are not aware of basic material properties?

    The housing has a stop flange. Once the stop flange makes contact, stop turning the damn housing. Not contact plus half or quarter turn. Stop. If you dont stop the flange distorts along the circumference into a bellville washer shape. AKA a wedge. That's the pressure that must be overcome to loosen an over tightened housing, the distorted flange that is now loaded against the base.

    This is the reason, the ONLY reason the aluminum housing acts differently. Even oil change monkeys are unlikely to tighten the aluminum housing to the point the aluminum flange distorts.
     
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