Wisconsin Tacomas and bad financial advice

Guys don't read manuals.

 

Not working. I'm guessing he gets shocked by them whenever he hits a bump

 

shocking

 

Absolutely! I just figured with all the electrical issues them dudes are having after the Kentucky submarine trip...

 

He probably didn't realize they are not IPX7 waterproof rated. They rusted solid.

 

Not issues...features.

 

Seriously?! Must be cheap shocks...

 

I understand that how stiffer suspension on one axle will cause the other axle to flex more under load.

But, none of this explains how having a sway bar in the rear would allow greater overall articulation then not having one. If you remove the rear sway bar from the equation, the rear will just flex more before forcing the front to flex more.

I also know what the purpose of a sway bar is.

 

You've got to think less about suspension, more about body roll.
Go back & look at the race trucks, front tire off ground, lots of body roll, no rear sway.

 

Short of taking the starter completely off, there isn't much more to do.

Got up in there to clean/dry the pos. and neg. with a q-tip.

It would've been easier with the skid plate off but I didn't want to.
Instead, I rolled under the front diff. and gave the LCA a half-nelson.

I'm waiting until morning to start it.

 

You should probably just go trade it in for a 4th gen.

 

Yup, seen Tinkerer’s video. The rear sway plays a part in pushing the opposite corner into terrain and maximizing articulation.

Also without the rear, you’d probably instantly flip if you sneeze. That’s for crazy people!

You guys with your Tacomas don’t have to worry about any of this…your whole frame is one big flexy torsion bar.

 

It's literally impossible to have better articulation with a sway bar than without. I'm trying to figure out where this whole mindset is coming from.

 

Mind altering substances can be the cause.

 

I was actually surprised on my first turn with how much it leaned. I feel better about it now that I got a chance to honk on the thing on the Wyalusing trip. It still remains a vehicle you should not attempt to manuever while braking hard in interstate situations…but honestly you can say that about a lot of normal vehicles anyways.

Both swaybars removed may be a little too spicy…and since it will actually reduce articulation in most cases, it’s not worth removing.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcgKbUTQJy8&t=674s

 

Tinkerer went through the numbers under different configurations. The theory being based on the reality that the rear can fully flex more easily when directly compared to the front IFS. By making the rear more difficult to flex (either by having higher rate springs in the back, or by a swaybar), you are transfering more load to the diagonal corner…essentially, a rear sway bar forces the opposite front corner down.

That said, I recall him mentioning that the numbers can easily be affected by weight distribution. If the front end is much lighter than the front, the front tires just wont have the weight to stuff the tire.

edit to add: the articulation numbers he presented were total articulation numbers…not on any individual axle. In other words, even though total articulation is increases with a rear sway…the rear axle will articulate somewhat less. I say somewhat because the 4runner rear axle articulates very well to begin with.

 

Does this prove that overall articulation, front plus rear, is greater with the rear sway bar installed versus removed? Somehow I doubt it.

With the rear sway bar removed, the rear will just Flex more easily. Eventually the rear will limit out and force the front to flex. So, there is no possible way that there is better overall articulation with the rear sway bar installed versus removed, imo.

 

Sorry, still waiting for a good answer. Please, someone explain to me, how a same suspension with a rear sway bar is going to flex more than the same suspension without a rear sway bar. It might make the front Flex better at first. But, eventually the rear is going to limit out and force the front Flex also. Please discuss!