Is tacoma moving in a favorable direction (1st gen to 4th gen)?? Let me know down below

yotadust · May 7, 2025 at 8:17 AM

b_r_o said: ↑

Ah yes, I noticed your impeccable grammar and highlighted bullet-point text in other threads.

Weird flex but ok..
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no sure what you mean but that chit is funny right there I don't care who you are

yotadust · May 7, 2025 at 8:21 AM

if you cant laugh at a 1st gen telling a 3rd gen he has a limp torque curve we cant be friends

b_r_o · May 7, 2025 at 8:21 AM

yotadust[OP] said: ↑

no sure what you mean but that chit is funny right there I don't care who you are
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The poetry is funny. Responding to technical questions with AI response is a little.. strange..

But you're new here and you're having fun, no worries.. I dint mean anything bad by it.. carry on

yotadust · May 7, 2025 at 9:53 AM

b_r_o said: ↑

The poetry is funny. Responding to technical questions with AI response is a little.. strange..

But you're new here and you're having fun, no worries.. I dint mean anything bad by it.. carry on
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it seemed to help this fella. If you are a mechanic it prolly seems silly but for us not mechanics I think its very helpful for troubleshooting

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/coolant-loss-in-reservoir-on-3-4l.858195/

Curveball30 · May 7, 2025 at 12:41 PM

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Extra Confused Transmission
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LOL! Perfect!

Curveball30 · May 7, 2025 at 12:55 PM

yotadust[OP] said: ↑

AI Analysis:

When discussing the "toughest" generation of the Toyota Tacoma, it largely depends on how you're defining "tough"—durability, off-road capability, simplicity, or reliability. Here's a quick breakdown of the contenders:

1st Generation (1995–2004)
Toughest in terms of simplicity and reliability.

Known for legendary durability and reliability.

Basic but highly capable off-road with fewer electronics to fail.

Still widely used in harsh environments (e.g. deserts, mountains).

Solid choice if you're looking for a no-nonsense, ultra-reliable truck.

2nd Generation (2005–2015)
Toughest for daily driving and moderate off-roading.

More comfortable but still very rugged.

Offers models like the TRD Off-Road and TRD Pro (from 2015 onward).

Good balance between old-school toughness and modern amenities.

Frame rust issues in early years (Toyota extended warranties for this).

3rd Generation (2016–2023)
Toughest in modern tech and off-road features.

TRD Pro variant is extremely capable off-road (skid plates, crawl control).

Engine and transmission criticized for being underpowered or awkwardly tuned, though still reliable.

More complex electronics can be a downside in harsh long-term conditions.

4th Generation (2024–)
Most advanced but yet to prove long-term toughness.

All-new TNGA-F platform with coil-spring rear suspension in some trims.

Turbocharged engines and hybrid options.

Promises excellent off-road capability (especially in Trailhunter trim).

Still too new to assess true toughness or long-term durability.

Verdict:

Most Reliable/Long-Term Tough: 1st Generation (1995–2004)

Best All-Round Tough with Modern Features: 2nd Generation (2005–2015)

Best Off-Road Tech Tough: 3rd Generation TRD Pro (2016–2023)

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I still see a whole lot of first gen trucks in this area. It's like they never die.

OpeCity · May 7, 2025 at 3:03 PM

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Title: "Taco Time: A Family Feud"

Scene: A garage decked out like a man-cave. A dusty 1st Gen Tacoma sits on a stool drinking motor oil. 2nd Gen wears cargo pants and a flannel. 3rd Gen is fiddling with Bluetooth settings on a cracked infotainment screen. 4th Gen walks in wearing a smartwatch and LED headlight shades.

1st Gen (1995–2004) (grumpy old man voice):
"Back in my day, we didn’t need hill descent assist or backup cameras! You just rolled backwards until you hit something soft!"

2nd Gen (2005–2015) (middle child energy):
"Yeah, and you rusted faster than a soda can in a saltwater jacuzzi. I'm the reason people still trust the Tacoma name, grandpa!"

3rd Gen (2016–2023) (tech bro, slightly defensive):
"Okay, okay — but I brought touchscreens, LED daytime runners, and TRD Pro Instagram fame. You're welcome."

1st Gen:
"You brought gear-hunting transmissions and limp torque curves. I had a real frame. You had... issues."

2nd Gen:
"He's not wrong. You spent 5 years figuring out how to go from second to third gear without crying."

3rd Gen:
"Hey! At least I don’t squeak like an old bed frame every time someone gets in. And unlike you guys, I actually had a GoPro mount."

4th Gen (2024+) (smooth, confident, EV-commercial voice):
"Gentlemen. Step aside. I am built on the TNGA-F platform. I have a turbocharged hybrid powertrain. My shocks have more travel than your entire suspension system."

1st Gen:
"You’re just a Tundra with a Napoleon complex!"

2nd Gen:
"I bet your tailgate opens by voice command or some nonsense."

3rd Gen:
"Wait wait, are you coil springs now? What are you, a crossover?"

4th Gen:
"I have multi-link coil suspension, a 14-inch infotainment screen, and wireless Android Auto."

1st Gen:
"So you’re basically a smartphone with a truck bed."

4th Gen:
"And you’re a lawn tractor with a title."

(All laugh except 1st Gen, who mutters and sips motor oil.)

2nd Gen:
"Face it, we all did our part. I made Tacomas cool. Grandpa made them last forever. Junior made them pretty."

3rd Gen:
"And now robo-boy here thinks he’s a Land Cruiser."

4th Gen:
"I am the Land Cruiser. Just... fun size."

1st Gen:
"Fine. Just don’t forget where you came from. Underpowered, overbuilt, and driven by guys named Hank."

(They all raise their oil cans.)

ALL:
"To Hank!"
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Sometimes you see a post and are reminded that there are absolute lunatics behind their keyboards in this world

yotadust · May 7, 2025 at 4:30 PM

price tag now makes sense

treyus30 · May 7, 2025 at 4:48 PM

yotadust[OP] said: ↑

3rd Gen Tacoma (gritty, scarred, and unbothered):
“Nice LED strip. You here to hit the trail or film a TikTok?”

4th Gen Tacoma (fresh off the lot, full of attitude):
“I’m the future, old man. Turbocharged, hybrid, digital dash—get with the program.”

3rd Gen:
“You’ve got more tech than traction. Let me guess, you cried the first time someone scratched your paint?”

4th Gen:
“You’re just jealous. I’ve got more torque, better MPG, and a smoother ride.”

3rd Gen:
“You’ve got feelings. I’ve got scars. I’ve been up cliffs with no cell service and came back with branches in my grill and dignity intact. You wouldn’t survive a dirt road without a firmware update.”

4th Gen:
“Yeah? Well I’ve got coil rear suspension and a 10-speed—what do you have?”

3rd Gen:
“Respect.”

(pause)

3rd Gen:
“People mod me because they need me. You get modded so influencers can take pics in front of REI.”

4th Gen:
“I’m built for the modern driver.”

3rd Gen:
“Exactly. Soft hands, big screen, zero grit. You were born in a dealership. I was forged in backcountry.”

4th Gen:
“…you’re obsolete.”

3rd Gen:
“And you’re untested.”

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All I see as a 1st gen owner:

Williston · May 9, 2025 at 2:33 PM

yotadust[OP] said: ↑

transfer case mapping on the glove box son

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^^This^^ Perfect: "Everything you need and nothing you don't."

yotadust · May 7, 2025 at 5:07 PM

treyus30 said: ↑

All I see as a 1st gen owner:

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3JOH22A · May 7, 2025 at 5:12 PM

3rd gen is the most popular Toyota truck generation in the history of the western world.

treyus30 · May 7, 2025 at 5:24 PM

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3rd gen is the most popular Toyota truck generation in the history of the western world.
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that must mean it's good

Canadian Caber · May 7, 2025 at 6:15 PM

Who let @RIX TUX back in?

yotadust · May 8, 2025 at 5:31 AM

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that must mean it's good
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its good but it could have been great with the motor, transmission, and front cabin geometry from the 5th gen 4runner. But they wanted to squash the cab like a pancake to accommodate decent ground clearance and high roll over ratings. I want ground clearance but don't care about roll over. Build the cabin taller ground to ceiling. Needs about a foot more. Even on the new 4th gen.

yotadust · May 8, 2025 at 8:08 AM

3JOH22A said: ↑

3rd gen is the most popular Toyota truck generation in the history of the western world.
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do you think its because it had no competition for so long in north america?

yotadust · May 8, 2025 at 3:18 PM

Williston said: ↑

^^ Perfect: "Everything you need and nothing you don't."
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not sure why folks don't want trucks to go back to the basics to save $20k or $30k. Seems like majority on here are very happy with the direction Toyota is going with their pickups and SUVs. I don't get it.

Curveball30 · May 8, 2025 at 3:37 PM

yotadust[OP] said: ↑

not sure why folks don't want trucks to go back to the basics to save $20k or $30k. Seems like majority on here are very happy with the direction Toyota is going with their pickups and SUVs. I don't get it.
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I seem to recall a Trail Model in the 3G that had a locker without all the expense of the TRD OR. I thought that was a great idea.

yotadust · May 8, 2025 at 4:07 PM

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I seem to recall a Trail Model in the 3G that had a locker without all the expense of the TRD OR. I thought that was a great idea.
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yeah the trails were great in the 3rd gen taco and 5th gen 4R then they got greedy with it on the new gens.

SchwarzeEwigkt · May 8, 2025 at 3:43 PM

treyus30 said: ↑

that must mean it's good
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To back up your argument, Ford sold 3.2M Pintos...

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