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3rd Gen HID vs LED vs Halogen H11 projector headlights

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by crashnburn80, Jan 25, 2019.

  1. May 19, 2025 at 11:26 AM
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    Homologated means approved, that's all. LED is still bi-directional, not omnidirectional. Approval seems to apply to glare, not to how well it works.
     
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    Yep, as long as its over the minimums and under the maximums it's legal. Doesn't mean it is better, or even as good, as we've seen here with Crash's excellent testing.
     
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    They’ll be sorta white and not as bright as a regular good H9 bulb. The colored blue glass filters light, filtering light dims the output. Simple physics…like putting on sunglasses.

    If you want the blue bulb whitish look, yeah they’ll do the job, won’t be as bright. If you’re looking for actual performance, just buy a quality H9. it’s the best output you can possibly get out of a simple plug in halogen bulb and a massive improvement over the stock H11 bulbs.
     
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    I use Philips H9 no tint or cap on the glass
     
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    Same
     
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    Just obtained a 2016 Highlander, ordered some OSRAM H9's to replace the H11's

    The high beams are H53 if I recall, they had some strange staining on the inside of the bulb for some reason.
     
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    HB3? I do not think a Sea Stallion can fit inside of a Highlander :anonymous:

    HB3 is the same as 9005. You can mod an HIR 9011 bulb (trim one tab) to fit the 9005 socket. That's what I did to my wife's RAV4. Same filament placement, same size element, no glare.

    https://www.iwsti.com/threads/sunday-mod-diy-hir-9011-to-9005-bulb-conversion.227770/
     
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    Phillips also makes 9011 HIR bulbs. Made in Germany.
     
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    Garbage.

    A bi-directional LED limited to legal halogen spec lumen output regulations while not being an omni-directional light source in an omni-directional housing is going to catastrophically under perform. All the best PnP LEDs that still fail to out perform even stock wattage performance halogens run at excessively over lumen legal output, and yet still fail to out perform halogens in halogen housings. Don't fall for the kool-aid.
     
  16. Jun 12, 2025 at 12:35 AM
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    5000k bulbs from a halogen source suffer catastrophic filtration losses, definitely not recommended. Higher color temps in halogen are achieved by heavier blue filtration coatings which remove lower color temp light output to make it "whiter", but the important thing to note is that you are removing light output, and removing light output reduces your output.

    See post 5515 in the 2nd Gen thread for data on these bulbs.
     
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    But "bi-directional" is the same as "omni-directional" ... it must be!!!!!!!!!! :anonymous:
     

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