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Crank Shaft Damage

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by TunaTaco4lyfe, May 10, 2025.

  1. Jun 13, 2025 at 8:34 AM
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    TunaTaco4lyfe

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    Anyone have experience or knowledge with Jarco Engines? According to this thread they are the engines sold through the Toyota Dealership. https://www.4runners.com/threads/new-5vz-fe-engine.20762/

    All of the popular/recommended reman engines (Yota1, Powertrain, etc) have a 3-9 month wait time. Too many bad reviews for JDM used engines so I don't want to go that route. Next option is rebuild as you have mentioned @slater
     
  2. Jun 13, 2025 at 12:37 PM
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    Im strictly a ford guy inregards to my hands on experience...
    Ive been forced to install some a dozen or so Jasper engines over the years....
    Usually when third party warranties didnt want to pay ford pricing or if theres major supply chain issues & the customer is twitching / convulsing & cant wait....

    Call Richard at Action & pick his brain on cost....
    Tell him your key way clot is F'd up, etc...
    Ask him cost on rebuilding your engine, would be replace the crank or repair it & re-machine it, etc...

    I have no idea but need to start asking questions to gain the knowledge & make a decision....

    Is there a machine shop your current shop likes using?
     
  3. Jun 13, 2025 at 1:47 PM
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    Yeah the current shop has a machine shop they use and said he’s going to give them a call for me. I forget the name.
    I will call Richard in the meantime as well
     
  4. Jun 13, 2025 at 1:50 PM
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    Also, got some more photos back. I’m pretty sure they re used the original crank bolt and ruined the threads, then tried to use a grease lubrication to get bolt in. I couldn’t get crank bolt to screw in straight.
    Also, not an OEM crank pulley

    IMG_9688.jpg
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  5. Jun 13, 2025 at 2:07 PM
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    Probably not a new crank pulley either,
    Wouldn't surprise me, just rattle canned it black...

    I said it from the get go, threads in the crank do not give me a warm fuzzy feeling....
     
  6. Jun 13, 2025 at 4:34 PM
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    I seriously get more and more pissed when you post pix of this hack job by shop
    Again sorry.

    that pulley fix attempt looks like what a 12yr old would attempt on their loose BMX bike L crank that was loose/stripped.


    I mean, kudos to a kid ‘trying’ but a shop charging an owner and trying that crap???
    Speechless.
     
  7. Jun 13, 2025 at 4:58 PM
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    Isn't it insanity? Thanks for your condolences. Honestly having this forum community pissed off with me somehow eases the suffering haha
     
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    It could be worse, they could have tried welding it.
     
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  9. Jun 13, 2025 at 5:32 PM
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    Dont think that would be worse if done professionally by a machine shop......

    Add metal & machine it to spec...
    Requiring removing crank completely...
     
  10. Jun 16, 2025 at 12:14 PM
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    Richard quoted me $6800 for crank replacement and engine rebuild. Two weeks time. Leaning toward that option.
     
  11. Jun 16, 2025 at 2:20 PM
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    Thats with your shop pulling & installing?
     
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    Richard at Action Cylinder Head
     
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    So hes doing it all, the removing & reinstalling the engine, & the rebuild?

    Sorry, didnt word the original question very well.....

    From your response, Richards doing it all, start to finish?
    The rebuild & R&I?
     
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    To be honest I just assumed it included removal and install. I only had a few mins to call while at work today and just asked for quick estimate on crank and rebuild.

    Still weighing my options here but I will call back and ask for more specifics. Any thing else I should be clarifying or aware of?
     
  15. Jun 16, 2025 at 10:37 PM
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    Thanks for your help and recommendation by the way
     
  16. Jun 17, 2025 at 4:20 AM
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    My guess, it probably does include all the labor to remove & install also at that price which would be reasonable but dont ever assume...

    Off the top of my head, I cant think of anything else you should clarify....

    If he does proceed with the repairs, always a good idea to give hime the heads-up that if he sees anything questionable while he's in there that should be replaced to give you a call....
    Like hoses, stat, clutch, motor mounts, exhaust manifold, etc.....

    But yes, def call him back & ask if that includes labor to pull & reinstall the engine, him doing all the work...
    He is the most reasonably priced option in town as far as I know...

    Theres only one other shop around, "ricks machine shop"
    Rick is getting up there in age these days but still at it....

    Both options are in the same area...
     
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    Any updates or progress?
     
  18. Jul 3, 2025 at 9:30 AM
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    Filed with small claims court and have a court date set in October. In the meantime I decided to do the engine rebuild with Arce Engines in Santee area. They are doing the rebuild next week or the week after.
     
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    Reread my post #35... it is a blueprint, winning the judgement is one thing, collecting is another.
     
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  20. Jul 3, 2025 at 10:07 AM
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    Never heard of them, but end of the day sounds like youre moving forward & got it somewhat figured out...
     

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