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Archive Garage 2005-2023 Tacoma Leaf Springs MD HD XD

Discussion in 'Archive Garage' started by ARCHIVE, Dec 9, 2022.

  1. Mar 20, 2025 at 11:45 AM
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  2. Jun 11, 2025 at 12:40 PM
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    Tacoma leaf springs in stock: MD, HD, XD and MAXD

    We also have our new LD/Prerunner springs coming in about 8 weeks!
     
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  3. Jun 11, 2025 at 1:18 PM
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    Hello, I'm looking for advice. I installed hangers and relocation for shocks, reusing Deaver stage 3 leaf springs. The rear of the truck now is about 1 inch lower than the front. I measured it under the frame and rock sliders to double confirm. I'm wondering if XD/MAXD can solve the leveling issue. Can we understand this before the purchase because my current set looks good and actually I don't want to replace it yet? Or can we solve it by replacing only the shackles? Or just adding steel block under the leaf pack?

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  4. Jun 11, 2025 at 1:35 PM
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    With that canopy build on Deaver stage 3, you're probably way over the 1,000 lbs the stg3 are rated for.

    Very likely, the XD would be a great fit.
    But it would be worth getting the rear axle weight.

    Had a similar build tell me they had 1,000 lbs, but their rear axle weighed 4,100 lbs (~2100 lbs added). He had Deaver stage 3 and blocks, rode like crap because it was overloaded, and our XDs fixed him up.
     
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  5. Jun 15, 2025 at 5:13 PM
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    Any details on the LD springs?

    What is the full extended length of the MD springs measured at the shock mount? Or just full bump to extended travel if measured elsewhere.

    If one wanted a hair less lift than the springs give could they use your 4in shackles to bring the ride height down a hair?
     
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  6. Jun 16, 2025 at 8:30 AM
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    LD/Prerunner spring is intended to be around ~2" lift on a DC Taco with zero weight, but you can add a little weight.
    Plush ride and 14" travel.
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  7. Jun 16, 2025 at 8:48 AM
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    Nice. Looks to be what I eventually want to do. Will they handle weight better or worse than the stock leaves? I notice there doesn't seem to be an overload spring. Can you add a leaf later if you end up running more weight?

    In order to utilize the full 14in of travel would a shock relocate be required?
     
  8. Jun 16, 2025 at 8:53 AM
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    The point of LD is to add necessary lift and travel, not handle weight, that is why it's a light duty. We already have weight handling well covered.
    You can't get over 10" travel with shocks in stock location on Tacoma, so yes, relocation required is for 14"
     
  9. Jun 16, 2025 at 9:40 AM
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    It's just being a truck I at times carry big loads but most of the time they are rather light. Just wondering how it will handle the bigger loads compared to stock 3rd gen. The stock springs are already not great with weight. Had a load recently where I was abusing your bump stops by riding on them but they definitely saved me from feeling every crack in the road!
     
  10. Jul 1, 2025 at 11:54 AM
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    I'm buying a Tufport T65 camper for my 2019 access cab. It's supposed to be ready in July. I have a few questions about rear suspension.

    The camper is supposed to be around 650 pounds empty (probably without even any windows), but I'm guessing it will end up around 1000 pounds once I add some stuff. Should I just pick it up with the stock springs, weigh the truck, and figure out what I need? Or is it possible to estimate ahead of time? Ideally I'd like to take it out on trips right away and not spend part of the remainder of summer working/waiting on suspension, riding on bumpstops in the meantime.

    I have the TRD lift kit with 2" lift in front and 1" spacer block in the rear. Can I use the existing shocks with new springs? Archive springs are designed for longer travel, but is that limited by my shocks? Will "longer" springs cause any problem with stock shocks?

    I would like to do longer travel eventually, but I'm not quite ready to, yet. I also have hammer hangers and shackles that I haven't installed yet. I did install the Archive U bolt flip kit. Can I do all this piece meal, or is it better to do it's all at once?

    The camper is a slide-in. Probably 80% of the time it will be on the truck, but occasionally I'll take it off if I need to do truck things (towing/hauling). I have a daily driver for commuting. How bad will the ride be with the truck empty with HD/XD springs?
     
  11. Jul 1, 2025 at 12:11 PM
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    It would be better to prepare the truck before you pick up the camper.
    Stock shocks are a bit short for lift springs, like you'll not have enough down travel. I recommend 3" min. down travel from normal height
    XDs are too heavy for what you are describing unless you have a swing-out rear bumper, sliders and other gear. HDs sound like the best fit.
    With Archive Hammer Hangers, the ride with our HDs will not be too bad if you have the camper removed, but lift will be 3"+
     
  12. Jul 1, 2025 at 1:21 PM
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    Thanks. I'm still confused about rear shocks. Do you know if the shocks that come with the TRD lift kit are long enough? I don't know if they are different than stock, but I assume they would be 1" longer to accommodate the riser block. Or maybe not if that's close enough to the stock height.

    If I need longer rear shocks, do I need a shock relocation kit? Or are there longer ones that fit the stock location?

    I should have mentioned, I have sliders and a swing out. I'll ditch the tailgate which saves a bit.
     
  13. Jul 2, 2025 at 8:59 AM
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    I doubt those are any longer than normal products, TRD Pro aren't any longer than base shocks.
    You need a shock rated for 2-3" lift.

    Allowable specs are 15" max collapsed length, around 9"+ travel, so 24"+ extended
     
  14. Jul 2, 2025 at 11:34 PM
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    If you look at the TRD lift kit thread you will see pics of the TRD lift kit shocks next to 5100s and they are indeed longer. I havn't seen exact measurements but 1in longer seems about right. If they are the same length as 5125s they would be a 1in longer compressed length and 1.44in longer extended. 15.01-24.38in
     
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