Hybrid Gas Mileage?

The non hybrid also has a better towing capacity

 

Then I would suggest not getting one if those 500 lbs matter to you.

 

According to Car and Driver the non hybrid is nearly a second faster to 60

 

Anyone towing near the limit on a mid sized truck is going to ignore the limit anyway.
Because they don't tow very far. Or they drive really gently. Or only tow on flat terrain. Or kNOw HoW tO ToW. Or math is hard. Or don't know where to find a scale.

There, I said it.

 

According to C&D, they got faster times in 2wd. Hybrid won’t give full power in 4wd to preserve front diff. Since I don’t drive around town in 4wd or do 0-60 runs when off road, I can live with that limitation.

 

And now we are stop light racing trucks?
Every single taco owner will never deny 326 power and 465 TQ. Ever.

 

But its power with significant costs: 400 lbs of added weight; loss of under-seat storage; negligible MPG gain (perhaps even an MPG loss in certain driving scenarios); and $3500 surcharge. I'd probably still go with the hybrid (if it came in a LB), but its not a clearcut winner over the ICE version by any means.

 

Exactly, what is the advantage of more power when it's slower to 60,tow considerably less, in most cases less mpg and takes longer to brake and in Canada costs 6-7k more.

 

1. Not slower.
2. I think I would rather tow 6,000 with more hp, way more tq, and bigger brakes than 6,500 without.
3. Standardized test (EPA) the hybrid gets better mpg. If you get less, that’s on you.
4. Canada pays less for Tacomas than US and the options are packaged differently. I can’t help with your finances.

 

If I had a 21 Ranger 2.3t STX super cab it would be almost as quick as a 24 TRD Pro 2.4t with hybrid assist? That old Ranger would probably be faster with stock size tires and not the 35" on the Everglades. The video reinforces my view that I don't need a midsize SUV, that and if I'm not buying a truck to tow a regular cab F-150 2.7 ecoboost or 5.0 is what I'd be considering, because I just watched midsize SUVs drag race.

Toyota needs a tt V6 option in their midsize trucks.

 

These 4Runners sure look like Xterras to me.

 

I test drove a standard 4 cylinder turbo and then hopped into a hybrid immediately afterwards to see what was the fuss all about. Needless to say I own a hybrid OR.

 

Get your eyes checked homie.

 

Same.

I like the 0-30 MPH electric golf cart feel.

 

A Maggie? How long have you running it? I considering one but the $7k is giving me some pause haha.

 

It's been on the truck since 3k miles and currently has 97k. It's a steep price, but if you need more power for mountains or towing (or just fun), it's worth it.

 

If you stumbled drunk out to the parking lot you wouldn't know the difference. Both trucks have the majority of the same lines.

 

Toyota trucks using the iForceMax platform have consistently underperformed the claimed EPA numbers, for whatever reason. Virtually every review has noted this and the data on Fuelly confirm it. Not denying the torque boost, but I've begun to wonder if the extra weight of these hybrid systems does more harm than good when it comes to efficiency, especially on the freeway.

 

That weight also causes longer braking distances ,most reviews report about 20 ft. more for the hybrid.

 

Maybe the Max drivers can’t resist the feel of the torque and keep their foot on the accelerator longer. Pretty sure Fuelly drivers don’t all drive the same. I am frequently in motor only mode burning 0 gas which has to contribute to better overall mpg. Could I get the same or better mpg driving a non hybrid? I doubt it. I’m very happy with near 23mpg city.

The comparisons about braking I saw were based on “when we last tested” data. Same weather? Same road? Tires are definitely different and 33s vs 32s. Upgrade to larger diameter tires with more aggressive tread and see what happens. I’m sure 1” larger brakes and 10% larger pistons more than offsets 400lbs. Plus regen braking means your brakes won’t heat up as much and fade. Last longer too.
But hey, I’ll call Toyota and tell them to take the gun away from your head. No pressure to buy a hybrid, buy what you want.