Keep OEM Bilstein shock but lift using a longer spring?

Is it feasible to replace the factory spring with a longer one but keep the rest of the OeM suspension system to achieve a bit of lift/level? If so any recommendations for spring?

 

I thought I updated my profile, it’s regarding the 2024 TRD Offroad, not 2021.

 

Alldogs makes one. https://www.alldogsoffroad.com/alldogs-offroad-toy-f-m-4gt-front-lift-coil-springs-for-4th-gen-toyota-tacoma

Think Dobinson makes them too

 

Using a longer spring with a stock shock will give you the lift but the shock may top out (reach full extension). Besides being hard on the shock, it could affect the ride.

The Alldogs springs provide 1.5" of lift but they don't say if that's because they are taller or stiffer (higher spring rate). Taller could cause top out which may affect ride. Stiffer would definitely affect ride but wouldn't have top out issues - you retain full up/down suspension travel.

 

Thanks a lot!! I’ll give them a call and find out. I understand the trade off

 

I'm running Alldog on my factory Bilstein OR shocks. I talked with the folks at Alldog this last weekend at Overland Expo, and they were highly complimentary about the red OR shocks. They recommended those over the 5100.

 

My only concern about the springs is how they spec them. What does "Medium-load" mean? Same lb/in as stock? 10% more spring rate? One inch longer to provide 1.5" lift? Combo longer and more spring rate? All we know is that they are used in nuclear reactors across the country.

 

Ya, know, I'm sure they would answer your phone call, and you can ask them. All I will say is I have a 74# front bumper with a 83# winch. That would be 157# of extra weight on the front of my truck. I didn't measure before and after but I did get acceptable lift from the springs. If somebody wants to give me a stock distance from fender to center of wheel I'll be glad to compare.

 

I’ll measure tonight and give you the number

 

I called Alldogs and asked about just using front springs on a stock TRD OR and they told me it might sit a little higher than the back. If I were gonna go Alldogs I’d use their front and rear springs. Problem for me is you get what you get front to back wise.

I went Eibach because of the adjustable front coilovers and love it. Ride is a bit firmer than stock but not by much.

 

it's harder to measure than expected, roughly the vertical distance between the plastic chin to the level of the center of the hub is 3", let me know if this is even in the proper range.

 

Ordered Alldogs front and rear springs last week. I'll post pics before install and after. I installed a DV8 winch bumper 93# and a Badland Apex Winch 67# last weekend. dropped about an inch - I'm hoping to get that inch back and maybe more to see if I really want to install the rear springs.

 

Highly interested in this. I have a similar setup on the front end.
Would like to see how it turns out.
I have asked them about the springs on TRD sport shocks. We shall see what they say.

 

The TRD Sport was on my radar but I liked the overall packaging and MTS offered on the TRD Offroad. I will add that if I had went with the Sport - I would have swapped the suspension out with an Eibach Pro Truck stage 2 kit like I did on my 23 ORP 4Runner before selling it.

If I don't like this - I'll more than likely go that route.

 

just hope you don't get stuck with Mr Rainman. i'm being harsh I know but the guy who answered my call couldn't stop launch into a series of seemingly reheared sales pitches about the comfort of the spring and then other products which I did not ask at all...at the end I narrowed his rambling down to "please email me the link to these springs here is my email", nothing. But never mind. I think these springs are great. Will buy them soon.

 

Are you going to install yourself? Will you disconnect from the upper control arm ball joint or from the lower bolts. Let me know how it goes, I ordered the Alldogs for the front also. Should be delivered any day. I will eventually fork out to get them installed or grow some courage and do it myself.

 

do you remember who you talked to? there's only a couple of us who answer calls. as for the ride quality, they do not change the ride quality much at all. we used my truck for prototyping and i was honestly concerned throwing the 2.5 fox on that we did would change ride quality in a bad way. they didn't thankfully, but i was very happy with them. if you need a part number for the site, it's TOY-F-M-4GT

 

I did not get a name/didn't hear it clearly. However, don't get me wrong, not a major criticism, just wanted him to get to the point and let me ask questions.

 

well if you have direct questions, you can DM me since i have the shop truck with the parts we've used. or just ask here.

 

So, how do these springs work on TRD Sport OEM shocks? Do you guys recommend upgraded shocks or is OEM ok?