4th gen Oil Change

That’s the point, in January no oil change shop will touch a vehicle with a FV. Not even remove it and put the drain plug back in. I would be fine changing it myself in FL that month, but up north here crawling on the ground to change oil at my age from Dec to March is a nightmare. According to my back. Ice and snow covered driveways.

 

true, thats why I downsize to 2 instead of 3 car, not getting any younger lol

 

Trying to picture doing this while I'm changing my oil.

I'm not trying to be the spelling critic, but this one gave me a good chuckle. Thanks.

 

Fumoto... 'nuff said.

 

I have the same oil drain container and did the same deflection of oil, striking the tire, wheel and onto the garage floor, right beside and then under a 5x7 tarp. Nice.

With all of the room under and around the oil pan, it could have been designed to drain straight down.

Days later I purchased my first ever Fumoto.

I used a 10 inch tall clean storage container, dumped the clean oil into it and installed the Fumoto.

 

I’ve been using a small utility bucket that is maybe a foot tall as my oil catcher. Works great, zero splashes. Has a spout as well for easy pouring.

 

I think the N1 filter is a joke. The F1, and N3 (-10010) filters are larger. 90915-10010 was the filter for the V6 twin-turbo Sequoia/Tundra. It's been replaced by the YZZN3. I run the F1.

As far as brand. Good gawd folks, you can get Toyota filters for five bucks at the dealer. Why would you run to your favorite auto-box store and spend twice that on aftermarket crap?

 

Yeah the stock one is awfully small. When I held the Mobil 1 version at Wal Mart vs the Toyota one, it weighs easily twice as much too. Not sure if thicker casing, more filter, or what but definitely a difference in some of the aftermarket filters.

 

Apparently, the people who designed the engine disagree.

 

Soooooo I got a question..... I have like 4200mi. and have changed oil twice 1500 and 3000.... I went to dealer and got the stock N1 filter. Ok here is question, do we know if the F1 filter: 1) has the same flow rate as the N1?::: 2) Do we know if the F1 filtration is at least the same?
If this has already been answered, please direct me.
As a mechanical Engineer (ret.) I agree the N1 filter is (visibly) a less efficient filter, but perhaps not?

Thanks

And if the consensus is F1 then yup for sure I will change1!!!!!!!!!!

 

Normally, I would agree. I don't think I'm smarter than a Toyota engineer. But, if the N1 is acceptable, why would you not run a filter with more media? I come from the 22re world. We ran the various assortment of larger Land Cruiser filters that have been used over the last 40 years on our tiny engines. It's a personal choice. If you find the N1 to be acceptable, then run it. I won't.

Anybody old enough to remember the 15600-41010 filter?

 

My perception is the N1 and F1 filters use the same media. The F1 is just taller with more media. I have both in the garage ready to be cut open, along with the -10009 filter that came on the engine. I'm just waiting until my next oil change when I pull the -10010 off. They will all be cut open at the same time.

So to answer your question. I would suspect the F1 would probably flow the same as the N1 when new, but flow better toward the end of its life.

 

Fair enough........ I could agree with this.

 

OP thank you for the info, just did my 1st oil change @ 4,900 miles. Was prepared with a taller bucket so avoided most splashback when draining the old oil.

It did take me a few trips to hardware store to get the proper torque wrench, I almost tightened the drain plug to 30 in-lbs

 

Glad you avoided the Exxon Valdez that many of us have experienced on our first oil changes

 

26 pages of an oil thread! Funny how that’s a universal trait of a vehicle forum. Lots of good info though. I ran across some drain plug washers in my garage from a former truck. A 2019 Tundra. Same part number!

 

Well normally they're threads arguing about brands or weights of oil. This at least has some humorous stories about making a god-awful mess while doing your first change. Me included

 

I did read the whole thread, but that was yesterday and I’ve slept since then… Same filter for the hybrid, right? I’m pretty sure the answer is yes, but I was looking for them on eBay and found several that said “does not fit”. IIRC it’s the same engine, the hybrid just has that battery pack attached to it, so it should be the same filter. Just making sure I’m not losing my mind… Thanks!