brand new Tacoma fan stops spinning

Its not a total clusterfuck from what I can see...
That being said, doing it for a living for 32 years, im leaving it to the guys that do it everyday vs me struggling trying to learn a new brand....

 

Yeah most Toyota cars have had electric fans for the past 50 years. Electric fans are known to shatter if blade tips are submerged in water (like during a water crossing) while the fan is running. Clutch fans are more forgiving in this regard.

 

Yeah. I'm not worried about fan type.
I'm more worried about the easy of working on it.
And the cost to repair it.

Looks like the thermostat is an electrically controlled valve.
I understand why they did, and the principles behind it.
But it looks "expensive" compared to a standard thermostat.

That's the stuff I'm not looking forward to in the future.

 

The thing is though, as crazy as it sounds, the electric stuff fails less frequently. So having to do thermostat work is no longer the inevitability it used to be.

Yes the repairs are more expensive when these new "computerized" cars break. But they truly are less prone to breaking as time goes on

 

Fair enough.
But I'm not ready for a plug-in Tacoma. Not yet......

Maybe in about 18 more years.
I'll be 60 then. And then I figure, I'll call it quits on crawling under and working on cars/trucks.

 

Its our future...
It is what it is,
I was stoked in the 90's when ford decided to stop putting turbos on vehicles & there were only a few...
Now here we are & everything has a turbo....
electronic stats, electronic oil pumps, phasers, oil lubricated wet timing belts, electric turbo waste gates, tstat to control the tstat, ok, my head hurts...
being a tech is longer any fun....
All the cool vehicles from back in the day are non existent or cost a fortune to get your hands on one...

 

That could be true if they would stop using plastic and other "throw away" materials on things that have no business being plastic, it all just turns to dust if you look at it wrong after it's 5-10 years old.

 

Almost Friday….

 

But then owners wouldn’t be replacing parts and stealership profit will take a hit if not for plastic .

Plastic safe guard job because they don’t last.

 

I agree. The less electronic control/equipment a vehicle has, the better.

 

Oh no doubt it's to maximize profit margins but I'd sure as hell rather be fixing legitimate problems than this stupidity caused by plastic nonsense that can't be fixed, only replaced by more junk that's gona fail again in 5-10 years.
Sure Toyota generally uses better quality plastics than others but it's still plastic and it will degrade.

This is the crap that as a tech just makes me mad and feel bad for people. 19 Encore with less than 100k, gotta replace the whole valve cover and intake manifold because of a 5 cent check valve and a 50 cent diaphragm. And aparently we can't make a turbo hose than can handle 15 psi without exploding either.
Nearly $600 for probably less than $50 worth of rubber and plastic plus the time to R&R it all.

 

^Ah Encore was basically designed as a disposable car. For example, its blower motor is molded into the air duct assembly so GM can save 5 cents in screws. Replacement requires cutting the motor out with an Xacto knife. Tacoma isn't there yet. Even the Corolla isn't there yet.

 

I agree. I guess a better way to explain it is back then we were up against the limits of the current technology. - stuff like wax thermostats and viscous fan clutches.

Nowadays we know how to design better systems (that should be more reliable in theory) but we are held back by bean-counters instead

 

That makes your ideal vehicle a Mahindra Roxor?