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Yet Another "Metallic" Rattle Request for Help (Sorry)

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Burnall4, Sep 5, 2025.

  1. Sep 5, 2025 at 5:25 PM
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    Burnall4

    Burnall4 [OP] Well-Known Member

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    Hi All, apologies to post another "Help I have a rattle" thread. It Has become unbearable, and embarrassing to drive...I know, I know.

    Update:
    [9/7/2025] - Bought bailing wire and hose clamps yesterday to test, but waiting on GoPro to show up so I can get a video of the noise and post it here before I test the hose clamps and / or bailing wire.
    [9/9/2025] - after some mix up, go pro finally showed up and I will be working on producing the video today and tomorrow.
    [9/9/2025] - uploaded video clip
    [9/11/2025] - put hose clamps / bailing wiring (tried both) on the cat underneath the drivers area of the truck with the heat shield, it didn't stop the the rattle, will try the primary ones up by the manifold over the weekend.

    Problem:
    - Metallic Rattle Sound, like marbles in a tin can
    - Started a while ago but thought it was something loose but it has gotten really bad over the past couple of months
    - Sound Origin - mostly concentrated to under driver/driver side behind the engine, to left
    - Only happens between 1000-2000 RPM while moving, can't reproduce while parked
    - Only happens between 15-40 MPH
    - Happens/occurs when accelerating
    - Happens/occurs when "Coasting"
    - Happens/occurs when decelerating - really noticeable
    - Happens/occurs when turning, when turning right at low speeds or left
    - At higher speeds can't tell because of the hum of the tires, it could be there it could not be there :shrug:

    Truck Details:
    2017 TRD OR Crew Cab Short Bed - Have owned since new
    Miles: 60,025
    Accutune OR Fox 2.5 Remote Ressy suspension
    Devear Add A leaf full leaf spring swap
    Upside down Mounts for Leaf Springs - forgot what it is called
    Needle Bearing Mod
    SCS Wheels
    Widpeak A/T
    Stoptech BB Kit all around
    Icon UCA Delta Joint
    Lowpro tonneau cover
    Oil changed every 4,500 miles with Motul 8100 0w-20
    All other fluids changed at 15,30, 45K with Amsoil or Liquid Moly (whatever I have on hand)
    Brake fluid flushed every 10K with Motul High Temp Brake fluid

    Video: You can really hear it at the end, but also after 16 seconds into the clip.

    https://imgur.com/a/G33c7SH

    What I have Checked/Tried:
    - Tried the usual take a mallet and knock around while vehicle is cold
    - Made sure all heat shields are tight, bolts have surface rust but not rusted
    - Made sure bolts are tight
    - Took off skid plates to make sure they weren't loose or bent
    - Made sure rear tire carrier lift mechanism was render in-op (spare tire/wheel is mounted in bed)
    - Check play in U-Joints, Center Bearing
    - Body Mount Inspection
    - No wear in any joints, or torn boots, no oil leaks

    What I have planned:
    - have an appointment for regular maintenance with my independent, Danny (from this forum) but its not for another 2 weeks; but have to drive the truck because I am moving out of state and my other vehicles are over 5 hours away

    Question:
    - Can a Catalytic Converter make this sound at only a specific RPM/MPH and only when driving?
    - IS there anything else I should be checking, thinking about?
     
    Last edited: Sep 12, 2025 at 10:59 AM
  2. Sep 5, 2025 at 5:51 PM
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    Anchovy

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    Check the heat shields around the cats. They tend to loosen up and rattle
     
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  3. Sep 5, 2025 at 5:53 PM
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    Burnall4

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    Thanks, I have checked all of the heat shields around the cats, they are rock solid, was thinking about taking them off tomorrow to rule them out completely though.
     
  4. Sep 5, 2025 at 6:39 PM
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    They won’t feel loose to the touch unfortunately. You’ll need to wrap some baling wire around and make it super tight with some pliers to be 100% sure
     
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  5. Sep 6, 2025 at 4:26 AM
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    Check the shields on the back of your disc brakes. If they are touching anything or even close, they will rattle. This was the problem for me. Took 2 minutes to fix, so it’s worth looking.
     
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  6. Sep 6, 2025 at 5:48 AM
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    Take a rubber hammer and tap on the exhaust front to back, the brake dust shields Ect...
     
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  7. Sep 6, 2025 at 7:07 AM
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    Good to note, will get some bailing wire and hose clamps today from the big box store. I have a safety wire fastening tool and safety wire, that might work to test the hypothesis but not sure if safety wire is strong enough, its just for securing bolts to my motorcycle with wire, hmmm...

    Checked this because Danny when installing the brakes had to modify the front dust shield to fit the Big Brake kit. But I had the brakes done at 20K or 30K miles and never had a problem with them.

    First thing I did, thanks for the thought and taking time to reply :thumbsup:
     
  8. Sep 6, 2025 at 8:26 AM
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    I just wrapped baling wire on my passenger side 2nd cat a few years ago. Stopped the rattling and hasn’t been back. You don’t have to go overkill with it, it’s not holding any weight or pressure. Just to stop it from rattling
     
  9. Sep 7, 2025 at 10:52 AM
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    Good to know. I got bailing wire and hose clamps, to test, but I am waiting on the gopro. It was supposed to be here yesterday but got delayed. I want to get a video and post before I try the wire / clamps in case in the future someone else comes along and has the same problem I want them to be able to reference this thread. All of the other threads on the forum are "usually" the OP just asking the question and/or the video link is dead.
     
  10. Sep 9, 2025 at 3:33 PM
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    Bumping: added video
     
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    @Anchovy unfortunately the neither the bailing wire nor the hose clamps on the cat with the heat shield on the cat below the drivers area, solved the rattle. I am going to try the same thing with the one that comes off the manifold closer to the engine this weekend.
     
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    Does the other one have a heat shield on it? I’m not sure there’s a whole lot of vibrating parts on the driver side
     
  13. Sep 13, 2025 at 8:03 AM
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    No, the passenger side does not have a heat shield, that side of the exhaust doesn't run close to anything that needs one. I just hope primary cats are toast, but I am not throwing any codes, and none are stored.

    Ninja Edit, and these are the secondary cats, that are accessible, the main cats are tucked up in the engine bay on either side.
     
  14. Sep 13, 2025 at 10:41 AM
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    I noticed that same, marbles in a can sound, just for a second on a cold start up. A heat-shield issue is what I thought of first. Any thoughts on the brake-shield when not moving?
     
  15. Sep 13, 2025 at 10:44 AM
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    For yours? It could be as the car shakes when it comes to life, with a certain vibration. Mine only happens with the stated conditions while moving. My brake dust shields are no where near the rotors, nor loose. Also the sound is very noticeably coming from the "center" of the truck on the driver side, under the driver and forward.
     

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