Frame rusted through club

I guess I have a hard time being lectured to by other people. If it ain't an issue for you, count yourself as lucky.

Talking about a stupid magazine article/journalism here is stupid and useless.

You can't deny that Toyota has had a major issue with rust on their pickups PERIOD

 

That's true. Especially since they were willing to compensate for the earlier ones. I'm just glad we aren't in the same boat as the Ford Raptor people. They are getting denied for the frames bending when using the trucks as Ford advertises the Raptor as being used. Not good at all. At least ours is a slow death. Theirs is instant!!

 

Lol

 

That's scary You been wheeling down the shore ?

 

Now i get what you mean by you living in the 'Armpit of America'...

Ever consider moving there, Champ?

 

You've probably seen Boyd in the documentary " Jersey Shore "

 

You have to lift your truck 5 feet to stay away from rust; just like this guy did.

 

What about getting some of the hard clear coat that por-15 or something like this http://www.kbs-coatings.com/diamondfinish-clearcoat.html . Seems like it would be perfect to apply either with a sprayer or spong brush on a newer truck to prevent rust. It may look nice as well... or it may just be a waste..thoughts?

 

Nice thought, but how about toyota put some R&D into preventing Rust.

Major FAIL by Toyota on the frames rusting AGAIN!

 

NICE!! dude was ridding your arse hard.

All you other ASSCLOWNS that aren't in the club and want to put us members down can leave the club house now...that is all.

 

bros super mad.

seriously how can you expect people to not be mad when their frames on their NEW trucks are rusting to shit when other makes arent? shit i would be pissed off too! (thank you arizona)

 

I've accepted it. I don't like it but if Toyota is telling me it's normal, then I'm going to have to accept that. I have it on record that I had mentioned the rust issue twice to the dealership and both times they inspected and said all was normal. As it gets worse I'll bring it in again. And again. And as much as I need to.

Later on down the line if something becomes a serious matter, then I can point to my record and say "I tried to tell you all..." And hopefully that will help me out in the long run.

But as for now, I've stressed out about it enough. So much that I said to myself "Should I trade this in later a couple years from now so I don't have to worry?" That being said about my 2 month old truck. A truck that I really do love. Then it occurred to me, that I was being silly if surface rust is normal.

So for now, I'm going accept that surface rust is normal, hope it doesn't get too much worse, and enjoy my truck.

 

You know I've been following this thread for a while. The OP said this was purely a toyota truck issue, but as of yet has not posted pics of vehicles in his area without rust. I challenged him to find a truck of similar age, and preferably maintenance. Find me an 07 ford, nissan, chevy, or dodge, thats a daily driver and has no rust. Rust on metal exposed to the environments is NORMAL. Frames rusting so bad they fold in half in 2-4 years is not. Thats the difference between the 1st gen frame recalls and the 2nd gen "rust issues" now.

 

But the point is, the frame should not be bare metal exposed to the environments. And the reason it's bare is because whatever is on it now is flaking off. Such as in MY case.

 

The issues I raise have been mostly from perspective of being a devil's advocate 'cause I genuinely don't know what's 'normal', and I don't think anyone could from so few experiences.

When I search for things like trucks, frames, rust and corrosion I hit dozens of forums for all truck mfr's where everyone complains about it. Many whine about use of corrosive de-icers on roads; many contrive ornate solutions like sanding and painting regimes or even sacrificial anodic protection on the frame (of limited value as far as I can tell because the whole thing should be immersed in an electrolyte like steel ships in the sea or pipelines in the ground). Curiously (or perhaps not, considering) Toyota forum are most obsessed with the idea it's excessive and must be the result of design defects.

At any rate... while it may or may not be normal, I can certainly say it's COMMON.

As for your case: peeling paint may certainly be annoying and unsightly for those times crawling under the truck, but what are the long-term impacts? Since surface rust is so common I believe it has be an issue only when it's bad enough to affect structural integrity... so when is that? Penetration, for sure, would be that point.

I believe Toyota, like everyone else in the industry, has a penetration warranty. I will keep an eye on mine... if I get penetration before warranty's up I'll be there.

 

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I think you are being a bit cynical. Dozens of people have stated that their frames are rotting and you don't want to believe that Toyota has a real problem? The fact is that there is a real problem, and it is inadequate frame coating i.e. frame paint. You suggest that the frame should have undergone a complete dip / bath procedure. I agree. But I think in the end Toyota is cutting corners saying that the current process is "good enough." I think your argument collapses when Toyota itself is states that the Tacoma frame rust is "beyond normal surface rust commonly found on metal after years of exposure." See cite below.

Your post is offensive in that you insult those tho take the initiative to spend their time and money to try to protect their 30K investment against frame rot. They should be commended for attempting to rectify Toyota's errors.

Please read Toyota's press release regarding the 1st gen frames. Emphasis is mine.

 

Some say that the 2nd Gen Tacomas are using the older design Tundra frames. Certainly Toyota would have improved it somehow since this? Maybe? I hope...(?)

 

The design is not the issue. It's the inadequate protection applied the frame before assembly. The Tundra's also had some serious frame rot too. It's my understanding that the Tacoma and the Tundra while produced by Dana corp do not use the same assembly lines.

Please read this article which speaks to the Tundra and Tacoma frame rot.

I do know that in 2009 the Tacoma frame had some revisions incorporated into it for safety and to increase structural integrity.

 

GAH! Blending of words. I mean older design Tundras, not older design frames. But yes, I understand now. It's the frame supplier and the prepping process. Thank you.

RE 2009 frame revisions: Do you happen know what they did in terms of increased structural integrity?