R.I. 30" LED Light Bar

Happily, first as you stated in the video the projection of light depth is always affected by the camera so posting pictures is not exactly a proper way to compair two brands.

VisionX uses a 10W LED which in the new Evo Prime lights will produce an astonishing 860 Lumens of light per LED, Compair that to an E Series LED which only produces a dismal 180 Lumens per LED. This allows for the use of far fewer LEDs per bar, for example a 30" Evo Prime uses 18 LEDs and will throw 15,480 Lumens of light behind an unbreakable Polycarbonate cover and real reflectors. The Rigid ESeries 30" Bar uses 60 LEDs and only produces 10,800 Lumens of light.

In addition VisionX lights can be custom ordered in any combo pattern you wish, Rigid lights all ship standard with the outers in a 40* Flood beam and the Inners in a 10* Spot Beams. Can you tell me exacty what model VisionX light you used to Compair. I have a theory and when you answer I think I will be able to properly explain why it appears the Rigid bar is brighter in your photos.

I want you to know that I am not bashing on the Rigid products, for the money they make a great light but they are from from the best on the market. Their ESeries Light and the VisionX Xmitter are pretty compairable but there are now mush better and brighter products available for only slightly more money. As a good friend told me you can have the Best and Brightest or the Cheapest.

VisionX Bars have a third wire that will tap directly into an optional Dimmer that is sold separately. Pretty cool feature.

 

These comparisons were with the Xmitter I believe. From their site it says it has 3 watt LED's.

As has been stated in this thread rigid can also be ordered with whatever combo you'd like-spot, flood, or a combo.

The photo's were taken on a tripod without moving the camera and using the same camera settings.

 

Good thread with lots of good info for people who are in the market for some LED's.

Here is some more comparison information between Vision X and Rigid

http://www.rzrforums.net/lighting-s...industries-vs-vision-x-led-light-results.html

 

Using a camera and displaying the results is the best way to show the difference between two lights. Otherwise all you get is a bunch of talk.

No doubt the 10W LED has the potential to help make an awesome light. But as stated earlier, Lumens are measured at the source. Right at the LED. Not after their lens. Vision X does not use an actual reflector. They never have. They use a lens, acually called a collimator. A collimator is not nearly as effecient as an actual reflector.

Here's a chart from another site showing how bright each was in their shootout...



With the 30" lights, the Rigid light is brighter from the beginning. You can see how quickly the Vision X falls off as you move away from the light. The 30" Rigid light is brighter than the Vision X 40" at 125'. The chart showns how a collimator is not nearly as effecient as an actual reflector.

All Vision X lights ship with a standard light pattern just like the Rigid light. Just like the Baja Designs light. All of the lights can be ordered in a custom configuration if need be. Even the cheapy China knock-offs can be ordered with custom configurations.

As stated above, the Vision X light used in the pictures is the Xmitter. Is was already explained why the Rigid light puts out more usable light. It's a lens vs reflector thing. A properly designed reflector, will always put out more light than a lens.

We are just trying to get people as much information as possible. You like Vision X, I like Rigid, others like Baja Designs. They all have their advantages. I like my light to do just about everything, especially project, so I don't have to have a bunch of other lights.

 

The cool thing about the Vision X Prime andReflex lights is that they can be hooked up to the Vision X Master Drive Unit. With that piece you can have the lights flashor dim. It's programmable so you can probably set the brightness lever at whatever you want. That would be a cool thing when you are pulling back into camp or following someone and you don't want to blind them.

The Vision X and Baja Design lights have thermal protection built into the lights. Heat is the #1 cause of LED failure. Too much heat on an LED will damage the LED to the point where it won't be as bright as it should or it will burn out completely. Because the heat sink (body) on the Vision and Baja Design lights does not have a lot of surface area they were smart and designed the circuitry to automatically dim when the LEDs get to a certain temperarature. As the light cools back down the LEDs are supoosed to kick back up to normal brightness.

The Vision X knock off from China is a great example of a light that does not have thermal protection. Or if it does it's not set right. I used to use the light in my driveway, or on the side of the road to light things up when working on things at night. It didn't take long before the light just killed itself.

 

probably already mentioned but if you like the amber, you can always get the colored cover to run the amber when you feel like it and remove it for the brighter white light

 

WOW. I went to the VisionX Super Store because I figured if the Vision X Evo Prime was roughly the same cost as the Rigid light I would buy one and we could all see how they compare. The 42" Evo Prime is $2,000. Twice the price of the Rigid E-Series. So I will buy a shorter version and compare the shorter lights.

 

Were running Rigids on our 7s. Four 10s and two 40's. They work awesome. More than enough light.

 

wow what a thread, sitting in the airport wanted to check the status, and man the information you guys have compiled is amazing, im still leaning towards a 30" Rigid

 

I will get pictures of all the new Rigid stuff and the Evo hopefully next week to help you decide what direction to go.

 

@ LovesDunes

You of all people should know why those Trophy Trucks are using HIDs as their primary light source, simply put a 600HP truck will outrun an LED. But they all use amber VisionX bars as a secondary dust and wide projection light. Also, notice that other than the GT truck every example you posted was a class 7, not even on the same page.

When I ask what Xmitter you were testing with I was referring more specifically to what Beam pattern? As discussed, All Rigid Bars ship standard with a 40* outer and 10* Inner pattern, VisionX lights ship standard in either a 10, 20 or 40* pattern but can be ordered in any custom configuration by simply calling the VisionX Superstore.

My guess is that you were using what most people purchase which is the 20* pattern which would affect your results seeing as a 10* spot beam would project further.

I continue to use the 30" length as my reference because this is what I am running on my truck. Again a 30" ESeries bar uses 60 3watt LEDs, (180 Lumens each), The Xmitter uses 54 LEDs (228 Lumens each)

 

Still waiting for brown santa to show up with my white one that i exchanged for on Friday. I'll take pictures and post up how they look.

 

I completely agree with you. I just thought it was funny that all of the Vision X sponsored teams were using the HIDs as their primary source of light. If I was lucky enough to race a 600HP truck, and I happened to be sponsored by Vision X, I too would use their HIDs over their LEDs. But that is from my experience with the Vision LEDs.

I will have to check the light to find out what the beam pattern it is. When I order the small Prime light I will order a bunch of new collimators too. That way I can at least make sure both lights are set up the same.

I don't know. The guy I got the light from does not remember either.

Why is your Xmitter missing 6 LEDs. They come with 60 just like Rigid.

 

Actually Rosenbaums and Steinbrrgers truck is a TT with Rigids... just sayin But yea 100mph+ HID's are better. We tried the LED's on our 8 truck... just didnt work as good as the KC Pods.

 

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Mike! Please were in the world did you find that awesome roof rack bar!

Can you please give me any name or website link or point me in the right direction!

Thanks in advance!

 

It's a roof rack used for a kayak or something. Forget the brand.
Found it on craigslist.