Long Travel BS Thread

I wouldn't sweat the TC gussets if you don't have them yet. Just tack weld the cams after you get it aligned, takes 10 seconds with a grinder to undo. I did the TC cam gussets and it still wouldn't hold an alignment for shit. I got really good at eyeball alignments, like within a few degrees good because once a week my alignment was off (in the dirt every day though). The shock hoops are pretty dang simple to make yourself too if you haven't bought them yet.

 

For sure wait on welding in the shock hoop till they get there, the tabs were like an inch off on mine from TC. You could just tack it in, but leave the tabs loose until you can match the stroke of the coilovers. I had to take the springs off, let the nitrogen out of both shocks, put a wheel on, then let the jack down do get the two shocks to match on stroke otherwise they will be off and one will bottom out before the other.

 

Ok i think need to adress this since this is in response to my comment, the easiest part of the entire process is building a proper length half-shaft. This should have been done long before you ever sold a single kit so your customers could retain their 4WD capabilities while you "explore" other options to pull more travel out of the kit. Personally it wouldn't make any sense for me or anyone else to buy your 4x4 kit since its clear that you dont even have the easiest part figured out. The Modified OEM axels may not be ideal but they work. Yea there are better options like RVC that will allow a couple more inches of travel but the joints are going to you almost as much as the kit will which defeats the purpose of a budget build. It isn't always necessary to respond to criticism on the interwebs Read, Learn, Listen and you will be far more successful in your endeavors to compete with the big brands, it looks bad when you feel you have to explain yourself

but before anything issues like these need to be worked out so that they do not happen. When have you ever seen a Camburg or TC built product fail like this? I respect you guys and your devotion to the sport alot, keep it up.

http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/long-travel-suspension/168855-fixable-frame-damage.html




just saying

 

What is the difference? I thought the stock replacements had the same travel and what not

 

Stock replacements have about a 4.5" stroke and and the 2.5x8" have a 8" stroke for long travel kits pulling around 14" of travel.

 

OEM replacements are a useable stroke for stock length LCAs but will not be long enough for a LT kit

 

I thought most or all of the aftermarket coilovers at 8" travel which is what I see TC and Camburg recommending for their LT kits

 

how can i put this simply...

the stroke of the shock does not determine the amount of travel a system will pull. OEM replacement shocks are anywhere between 4.5-5" stroke shocks which will equate to 8-10" of travel. Travel is really determined by the A-Arms, not the shocks. so yes a LT kit calls for a 8" stroke shock but that is far longer than a OEM replacement.

 

I understand that. What I am saying is that I thought most of the aftermarket coilover shocks were 8". I'm almost positive that the sway-a-ways that my girlfriend had on her old truck that she got with her camburg uca's were 2.5x8"

 

I can guarantee they are not 8" travel shocks. The long travel shocks are WAY bigger then OEM replacement coilovers

OE replacement shocks. The "long travel" mentioned here is for TC or Camburg UPPER CONTROL ARMS and OEM lowers:

http://www.polyperformance.com/shop...ng-Travel-Kits-for-Toyota-Trucks-p-18206.html

Long travel shocks for full Camburg or TC Long travel 2.5x8":
http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/Fox-2.5-Coilover-Shocks-p-645.html

 

As said above they are probably not the 8" coilovers although they look similar.
Actually the 8" coilover does fit. Lol
http://www.trailslesstraveled.com/viewarticle.php?id=53

 

Uh that article is crazy. You may be able to wedge an 8" coilover in there but you would lose a ton of travel. The OE replacement shocks are: Collapsed-15.325, Extended-19.500. That = 4.175 inches of travel if I know how to do math. An 8" coilover has 8"s of travel. Example Kings 2.5x8 coilovers are : Collapsed-16" Extended-24"

Edit: Aha Sway aways are collapsed-14.37 and extended-22.9. The article also says they used straps to limit the travel so they are not using all 8"s of travel

 

Yes the 8" do fit and I'm pretty sure that is what she had that is why I thought most of them were 8"

 

It may have "fit" but not what is supposed to be in there. Notice the different part numbers

This is what is supposed to go with OE arms:
Part# SAW-101-5600-3 2.5" 05-Up Tacoma Prerunner/4WD

This is a 2.5x8":
Part# SAW-56000-108 8" 22.9" 14.37" 7/8" Threaded Remote Reservoir

 

No they suck. Send them to me . Just kidding but not sure if they are worth a pair of shocks though. Brand new the bumps are only $185 each

 

"the easiest part of the entire process is building a proper length half-shaft. "

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