Off road lights behind Satoshi grill question

So I was thinking about getting a mesh grill similar to the satoshi grill for my 04 tacoma, primarily to put lights behind it. My question is, how much light loss do you get doing that versus in front of the grill? I'm concerned that it may affect the output too much.

Thanks!

 

mine are fine, i dont think it effects them at all. convert them to hids and theyll be really bright!

 

i already have the lights and would rather not spend more on converting them... unless it's not that much more??

 

From feedback I have received my M1 & M4 styles let all the light through...

 

no offense, but i would think by definition the laws of physics would disagree...

 

I agree...

 

youd have to buy a hid kit and follow a write up on how to convert them. kinda expensive but worth it

 

converting to HID's is cheap and easy, I just converted my hella 700ff's to 55w, cost 50 buck and took about 30 min. As far as light lost there is a little bit lost but it's not bad, maybe 5-10% reduction.

 

which hid kit did you buy man?

 

Here is what I got, they are insanely bright!
http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/DDM-HID-Kit-Slim-Ballast-35W-or-55W
They also sell these for 10$ less not sure if there is any difference in light output, prob just size of ballast.
http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/Apexcone-Raptor-HID-Kit

 

ebay sells xentec kits thats my friends and i have used in over a dozen different cars,truck,bikes and there great so far...like 30-50 bucks for a complete ready to install hid kit

 

^ X3. HID kits are now in the same price range as over-wattage halogen bulbs, compared to $500+ per kit 7-8 years ago.

 

dont get me wrong, HID's r nice, but they wont be that nice instant-on of a halogen bulb withhout spending a descent amount. im looking into LED offroad lights, u get the nice HID brightness and color, but instant-on like a halogen. i wanna be able to burn peoples retinas if they flash theyre brights at me