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Nitrogen?

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by FireTacMedic, Aug 20, 2011.

  1. Aug 20, 2011 at 7:39 PM
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    FireTacMedic

    FireTacMedic [OP] I can save your life or ruin it

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    Is anyone running Nitrogen in their tires and if so any luck with it?
     
  2. Aug 20, 2011 at 7:41 PM
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    It doesn't really do much, if it's free giver' , if you are paying extra don't bother.
     
  3. Aug 20, 2011 at 7:44 PM
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    It's a gimmick. The atmosphere we breathe (normal air) that you use in your tires is already 78% nitrogen. The only tires that truly need nitrogen is air plane tires so they don't pop when they go 40K+ feet up.

    Welcome to the forum! :wave:
     
  4. Aug 20, 2011 at 7:52 PM
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  5. Aug 20, 2011 at 7:56 PM
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    FireTacMedic

    FireTacMedic [OP] I can save your life or ruin it

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    hahahahaa yeah I guess ass gas is free too! Just hope im not clogged up when I get a flat.
     
  6. Aug 20, 2011 at 7:58 PM
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    FireTacMedic

    FireTacMedic [OP] I can save your life or ruin it

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    They say you get better mpg's and longer tread life running Nitrogen. Idk though haven't talked to many people that run it.
     
  7. Aug 20, 2011 at 8:07 PM
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    Going from 78% (normal air) to ~90% nitrogen in your tire isn't going to make much of a difference.

    @Crom: the reason airplane tires are inflated with nitrogen is to reduce the likelihood of a fire after a tire blowout. Hot brakes + oxygen + chemical outgassing from the tire + severed hydraulic line...
     
  8. Aug 20, 2011 at 8:24 PM
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    I've never heard that before. But as it turns out I did some reading and we are both correct. :thumbsup:

    http://boeing.com/commercial/aeromagazine/aero_05/textonly/m03txt.html
     
  9. Aug 20, 2011 at 8:36 PM
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    FireTacMedic [OP] I can save your life or ruin it

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    yeah im seeing more and more threads and topics online about it but wasnt sure on gains in truck tires. At least no one was wrong, LOL!
     
  10. Aug 20, 2011 at 11:02 PM
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    Yes, as Crom said... I use 78% nitrogen in my tires!
     
  11. Aug 20, 2011 at 11:11 PM
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    If they are going to pop at alitude it doesn't matter what air is in them. Pressure difference doesn't care about air composition they just care about it providing oxygen for fire after it blows.
     
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    You've convinced me bud, thanks
     
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    normal air is effected by tempature and nitrogen is not. I run HOT air in Texas (78%)
     
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    Airplanes put N2 in the tires because it has no moisture or oil init like regular compressed air would. At the altitudes the planes fly, any contaminants in the tire would freeze. When the plane lands, the sudden impact of the tire hitting the ground would heat everything and the tire would blow out, thus resulting in a crash. Also the expansion and contraction of the molecules are more uniform than a mixed gas.

    The reason you would put N2 in a personal vehicle is to reduce the chance of fluid friction of the moisture in the air that could wear and cause corrosion on the inside of the tire and rim. O2 is a corrosive, and mixed with other impurities speeds up the process. People have been putting regular compressed air in their tires for a long time without a problem. But if you can get N2 for free, go for it. The next best thing is airing up with compressed air that has a moisture separator in the line.
     
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    Not entirely true. The water in the air is what causes the temp change. If you have an air dryer on your compressor (or the shop that fills your tires), then the air wont expand oir contract as much. I've been testing this out on my comp.. I only have to make psi changes maybe once a year.....if that.
     
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    O2 "permeates" approximately 3-4 times faster than does N2 through a typical rubber, as is used in tires, primarily​
    because O2 has a slightly smaller effective molecular size than does N2.

    http://www.getnitrogen.org/pdf/graham.pdf
     
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    I filled mine with candy so my tires can be used as a piñata childrens parties.
     
  19. Feb 29, 2012 at 9:17 PM
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    It's so when they DO pop in the wheelwell after retraction (this is extremely common, when I worked at Douglas I got the daily "crash reports" and saw this 3-4x a week), the damage caused by the debris doesn't lead to a fire since the tire's nitrogen tends to purge the oxygen from the cavities.
     
  20. Feb 29, 2012 at 9:20 PM
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    And an extra 14.7psi is not going to pop an aircraft tire.
    Particularly not the SR71's tires that are jacked to 600psi.

    But ya... fill a tire at sea level and take it to the moon. That tire will contain only 14.7psi more than it did at sea level.

    No tire is going to pop from altitude.
     

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