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Full suspension or ARB locker

Discussion in 'Arizona' started by extremachn1, Aug 22, 2011.

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What should I do???

Poll closed Sep 21, 2011.
  1. ARB Air locker and onboard air!

    44.4%
  2. Full bad-ass suspension!

    54.3%
  3. Something else (state what you think)!

    1.2%
  1. Aug 22, 2011 at 8:26 PM
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    extremachn1

    extremachn1 [OP] I am an asshole, deal with it!

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    So I am torn guys, I want everyone's opinions...

    I have the money for either one of these, which do you think I should do and why. I will post up the pro's to each one.

    Option 1
    ARB Air locker and onboard air
    Currently I am relying on open diffs with the yellow wire mod (trac in 4-lo). An ARB would allow me to get to the places I want a little more finess. Currently I have to either brute force my way past an obsticle to allow my tires to get traction again and/or rely on the trac to kick in and move me forward. Trac works good but sometimes I blow threw the brakes and go no where. I would have a shop do the install on the Locker.

    Option 2
    Full blown bad ass suspension
    We are talking Fox 2.5" F/R shocks and coils, expedition rear leafs, UCAs, bushings, timbren bumpstops, ubolt flips, brake extensions, and drop diff.
    This will get me the extra lift i need to not chew up my fenders (as much) as well as get me more clearance/articulation and set me up for my armored front/rear bumper later in the year. I would do most of the install myself (with some of your guys help)

    I am leaning toward the suspension, I can get through 90% with the yellow wire trac mod. Plus I can get a little cash back from selling my current suspension

    What do you guys think, give me your pro's and cons...
     
  2. Aug 22, 2011 at 8:45 PM
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    SGT Taco

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    I think the lockers... your truck sits up a bit now, plus with your armor it is not really your clearance that would be an issue if you could lock it up and take stuff at a slower speed... also you would not have to spin the F* out of your tires and destroy them with your open diff waiting for your truck to kick in the A-TRAC...
     
  3. Aug 22, 2011 at 8:46 PM
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    04LTtacoma

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    I chose suspension but i think you should get both.
     
  4. Aug 22, 2011 at 8:53 PM
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    extremachn1

    extremachn1 [OP] I am an asshole, deal with it!

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    Oh I will get both, but which shall I get NOW???

    Again, I am leaning toward the suspension because I am chewing up my body (fender flares) when wheeling and I can then put on my bumpers at any time, same with the locker.
    I am waiting on a few quotes on parts for each...
     
  5. Aug 22, 2011 at 9:01 PM
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    precoma

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    I vote suspension there isent anywhere a good mid travel set up won't take you at high speeds :turtleride: lol
     
  6. Aug 22, 2011 at 9:13 PM
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    especk

    especk Nothin' Special

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    lockers! many guys with stock suspension and lockers will easily out wheel a truck with open diffs and a lift (in most cases)
     
  7. Aug 22, 2011 at 9:15 PM
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    04LTtacoma

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    Danget, who cares what we think just go with the suspension! Haha.

    What kind of suspension you thinking about going with?
     
  8. Aug 22, 2011 at 9:24 PM
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    extremachn1

    extremachn1 [OP] I am an asshole, deal with it!

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    Right now the plan is to go with the following if I go this route:
    FRONT
    Fox 2.5" coil overs with remote reservoir
    Allpro or Total Chaos UCA's
    Timbren bump stops
    extended front brake lines

    REAR
    Fox 2.5" shocks with remote reservoir
    Deaver or Allpro expedition leaf packs w/poly bushings
    Ubolt flip kits
    timbren bumpstops
    extended rear brake lines

    Drop diff
     
  9. Aug 22, 2011 at 9:31 PM
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    tough one
    voted locker just to even it out :p
     
  10. Aug 22, 2011 at 9:38 PM
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    extremachn1 [OP] I am an asshole, deal with it!

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    LoL, you guys are seriously no help!!! I want them both and will have them both so that is not even a questions.
     
  11. Aug 22, 2011 at 9:42 PM
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    ^How much travel do you plan on running out back?

    EDIT: Sounds like you have a plan. Get the suspension foo. lol
     
  12. Aug 22, 2011 at 9:49 PM
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    I vote(would be my vote but on mobile) suspension.

    I think that it's important to learn to wheel/drive without lockers as you learn what you can and cannot do without them, this way you use them properly, no over use of them (would be taking the easy way out)
     
  13. Aug 22, 2011 at 10:19 PM
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    TheGloryFades

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    I say locker, even 4x2 do well with a locker plus you can save and piece together a suspension as extra cash flows in
     
  14. Aug 22, 2011 at 10:19 PM
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    extremachn1 [OP] I am an asshole, deal with it!

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    I already have a bit of travel/flex out back. I am currently running 4 leaf pack TSB + Toytec AAL and 5100's but I think I am maxing out my 5100's. Talking with a couple shops this setup would give me even more articulation and another 1.5" of lift ontop of the 2.5" I have already. So by switching to the expedition leaf pack would be about 4" of total lift or about 3-3.5" with an armored rear bumper.
    Here is my current flex:
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  15. Aug 22, 2011 at 10:23 PM
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    This ^

    you won't need the flex with lockers
    and you have plenty anyway
    beside the fender issue.. that is a bummer
    Have they come off yet?
    I believe mike tore his off when he got 33's


    do the lockers first
     
  16. Aug 22, 2011 at 10:23 PM
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    extremachn1 [OP] I am an asshole, deal with it!

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    Not really worried about the extra cash flow situation, LoL. Check out my signature and you will understand. Its more of setting the truck up right so I dont mind dropping the cash. I just dont want to drop it all at once. I want to get some, install it, wheel it, find the next weak link, fix it, wheel it, so on and so forth...
     
  17. Aug 22, 2011 at 10:24 PM
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    extremachn1 [OP] I am an asshole, deal with it!

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    Yes but if I have the flex to keep both sets of wheels on the ground I dont need the locker (as much)...
     
  18. Aug 22, 2011 at 10:26 PM
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    extremachn1

    extremachn1 [OP] I am an asshole, deal with it!

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    They are starting to come off. Both of my rear fender flares have worn through the plastic around the bolts and have started popping off around the front arch and my front passenger flare has popped off the first two forward tabs.
     
  19. Aug 22, 2011 at 10:27 PM
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    lock it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! air lockers are the sh!t
     
  20. Aug 22, 2011 at 10:38 PM
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    G scott04 ...

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    Yeah... Idk

    this should convince you :D
    start watching at 1min 45 sec.the first guy to go up, grey vehicle has lockers, the blue vehicle
    has a shitload of flex and cant make it up

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBNPZFNOK-4
     

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