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Phelps BONG hit

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  1. Feb 9, 2009 at 12:47 PM
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  2. Feb 9, 2009 at 12:48 PM
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    tobacco doesn't get you high.

    Drugs are illegal for a reason. Medicine is regulated for a reason.
     
  3. Feb 9, 2009 at 12:49 PM
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    smoking sh*t doesn't make you healthy.
     
  4. Feb 9, 2009 at 12:50 PM
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    i dont think drugs will hold anyone back, but it may limit you ;) you can be an overweight alchoholic and all of a sudden start eating better and working out more...all while drinking still....you will loose weight and get stronger for sure...to a point.
     
  5. Feb 9, 2009 at 12:59 PM
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    Why does someone smoke a second cigarette if tobacco doesn't get you high? I smoke and still remember the high off of my first cigarette but then it was too late because then i got addicted to nicotine trying to acheive that high again. .....Just the way the tobacco companies planned it. Sell a product of demand and you won't have to worry about making money because someone will always be buying it. Pot on the other hand wouldn't have the same sales since it isn't physically addictive.

    This is the same reason that medicine is regulated because if we could just go out in the woods and dig/pick our own natural cures the FDA would be screwed.
     
  6. Feb 9, 2009 at 12:59 PM
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    I dunno, the best swimmer in the world smokes pot. Where does this magic "point" start and end?
     
  7. Feb 9, 2009 at 1:01 PM
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    We can just go out in the woods and do that. I try as much as possible to use natural remedies instead of synthetic medications. The only thing i have not been successful with is natural antibiotics when i get an infection.
     
  8. Feb 9, 2009 at 1:24 PM
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    Why does someone smoke a second cigarette if tobacco doesn't get you high?
    Because the first one wasn't enough.
    I smoke and still remember the high off of my first cigarette but then it was too late because then i got addicted to nicotine trying to acheive that high again.
    I get a buzz off the first cigarette I smoke every morning. But I don't smoke trying to chase a buzz. I smoke because I enjoy smoking cigarettes.
    Pot on the other hand wouldn't have the same sales since it isn't physically addictive.
    I know plenty of people who can't go a day or even hours without hitting the pipe.
    This is the same reason that medicine is regulated because if we could just go out in the woods and dig/pick our own natural cures the FDA would be screwed.
    Well, I certainly wouldn't pick the mushrooms in my backyard and try to use them to cure something. They would=death.
     
  9. Feb 9, 2009 at 1:27 PM
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    you know what strikes me as interesting now?

    how many times some of yall have proclaimed weed as NOT addicting...yet many of yall use it EVERY day if not multiple times a day...and in several different fashions...

    and i know what youre going to say...i can stop anytime i want...i chose to do it because i like the way it makes me feel or whatever...yet...everyone laughs and just says "ok" when a smoker/dipper/drinker says the same thing and its called denial
     
  10. Feb 9, 2009 at 1:32 PM
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    Well, i smoke weed almost everyday.

    But, friday, saturday and sunday that just passed i didn't smoke. I went on a camping trip and i didn't want to be high, so i didn't bring any. Didn't bother me at all.

    I was certainly never able to do that when i smoked cigarettes.
     
  11. Feb 9, 2009 at 1:39 PM
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    thats a good point. I am also willing to bet he doesn't toke up during training either. we will never know though.
     
  12. Feb 9, 2009 at 1:40 PM
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    mental addiction and physical are two different things. physical you will get sick, mental you will start to go crazy if you dont get it.

    also, you don't need to do something every day to be addicted to it either.
     
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    Canadian hippie... :laugh:
     
  14. Feb 9, 2009 at 1:47 PM
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    lets stir the pot a bit more shall we...
    http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=9814127
     
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    It's the wife's T4R so it's stock
    ^^
    interesting....
     
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    I knew he was innocent the whole time.
     
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    Taken from Wikipedia:

    "In medical terminology, an addiction is a state in which the body relies on a substance for normal functioning and develops physical dependence, as in drug addiction. When the drug or substance on which someone is dependent is suddenly removed, it will cause withdrawal, a characteristic set of signs and symptoms. Addiction is generally associated with increased drug tolerance. In physiological terms, addiction is not necessarily associated with substance abuse since this form of addiction can result from using medication as prescribed by a doctor.

    Physical dependence on a substance is defined by the appearance of characteristic withdrawal symptoms when the substance is suddenly discontinued. Opiates, amphetamines, benzodiazepines, barbiturates, alcohol and nicotine induce physical dependence. On the other hand, some categories of substances share this property and are still not considered addictive: cortisone, beta blockers and most antidepressants are examples. So, while physical dependency can be a major factor in the psychology of addiction and most often becomes a primary motivator in the continuation of an addiction, the initial primary attribution of an addictive substance is usually its ability to induce pleasure, although with continued use the goal is not so much to induce pleasure as it is to relieve the anxiety caused by the absence of a given addictive substance, causing it to become used compulsively. An example of this is nicotine; A cigarette can be described as pleasurable, but is in fact fulfilling the physical addiction of the user, and therefore, is achieving pleasurable feelings relative to his/her previous state of physical withdrawal. Further, the physical dependency of the nicotine addict on the substance itself becomes an overwhelming factor in the continuation of use.
    Some substances induce physical dependence or physiological tolerance - but not addiction - for example many laxatives, which are not psychoactive; nasal decongestants, which can cause rebound congestion if used for more than a few days in a row; and some antidepressants, most notably venlafaxine, paroxetine and sertraline, as they have quite short half-lives, so stopping them abruptly causes a more rapid change in the neurotransmitter balance in the brain than many other antidepressants. Many non-addictive prescription drugs should not be suddenly stopped, so a doctor should be consulted before abruptly discontinuing them.
    The speed with which a given individual becomes addicted to various substances varies with the substance, the frequency of use, the means of ingestion, the intensity of pleasure or euphoria, and the individual's genetic and psychological susceptibility. Some people may exhibit alcoholic tendencies from the moment of first intoxication, while most people can drink socially without ever becoming addicted. Opioid dependent individuals have different responses to even low doses of opioids than the majority of people, although this may be due to a variety of other factors, as opioid use heavily stimulates pleasure-inducing neurotransmitters in the brain. Nonetheless, because of these variations, in addition to the adoption and twin studies that have been well replicated, much of the medical community is satisfied that addiction is in part genetically moderated. That is, one's genetic makeup may regulate how susceptible one is to a substance and how easily one may become psychologically attached to a pleasurable routine.
    Eating disorders are complicated pathological mental illnesses and thus are not the same as addictions described in this article. Eating disorders, which some argue are not addictions at all, are driven by a multitude of factors, most of which are highly different than the factors behind addictions described in this article. It has been reported, however, that patients with eating disorders can successfully be treated with the same non-pharmacological protocols used in patients with chemical addiction disorders.[18] Gambling is another potentially addictive behavior with some biological overlap. Conversely gambling urges have emerged with the administration of Mirapex (pramipexole), a dopamine agonist.[19]

    Psychological dependency is a dependency of the mind, and leads to psychological withdrawal symptoms (such as cravings, irritability, insomnia, depression, anorexia, etc). Addiction can in theory be derived from any rewarding behaviour, and is believed to be strongly associated with the dopaminergic system of the brain's reward system (as in the case of cocaine and amphetamines). Some claim that it is a habitual means to avoid undesired activity, but typically it is only so to a clinical level in individuals who have emotional, social, or psychological dysfunctions (psychological addiction is defined as such), replacing normal positive stimuli not otherwise attained (see Rat Park study).

    A person who is physically dependent, but not psychologically dependent can have their dose slowly dropped until they are no longer dependent. However, if that person is psychologically dependent, they are still at serious risk for relapse into abuse and subsequent physical dependence.[citation needed]"
     
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    All i'm saying is the whole "illegal" thing boils down to money and not the best interest of the citizen

    You say that you know people that can't go hours without smoking pot but maybe that's because they enjoy it as much as you do cigarettes and they're not after the buzz.

    And as far as you picking mushrooms for health reasons you might want to do some research first for what is edible in your area or yea you could get sick and die. There are plenty of natural remedies around if you know what your looking for. Some you can even sell.
     
  20. Feb 9, 2009 at 1:55 PM
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    I smoke pot every day while Im at my house is Statesboro... but recently I go home to work about every other week and don't smoke for 5 or so days. I have been smoking everyday for the past 6 years and these little spurts of not smoking DO NOT AFFECT ME AT ALL. I have no "need" to go smoke... and its not like i can't smoke while Im at home, I just choose not to. So to say that you can get addicted to weed is rediculous.

    Have any of ya'll ever seen the movie Super High Me... watch it you might learn something
     

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