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Phelps BONG hit

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  1. Feb 9, 2009 at 4:35 PM
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    oh btw...updated details from Columbia, SC concerning the original topic

     
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    Must be nice to be able to quit anytime a drug test comes up at work. Guess you don't have anyone depending on the income you bring home.
     
  3. Feb 9, 2009 at 4:40 PM
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    Jester243 all I wanted was a god dang picture of a hotdog...

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    some of this, a little of that
     
  4. Feb 9, 2009 at 5:03 PM
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    It would be interesting to know if one of the 8 arrested for possession was the one who took the photo?
     
  5. Feb 9, 2009 at 5:18 PM
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    I bet the arrest warrant affidavits are floating around the internet somewhere. If not, and the affidavits are not sealed, it would be as easy as driving down to the courthouse and getting a copy for yourself. Maybe someone in the area that has some time on their hands could pick them up?

    If the DA does decide to file charges against Phelps, I am very curious to see just how the prosecutor will state his/her case to the jurors WITHOUT reasonable doubt... I doubt the jurors would NOT find reasonable doubt in such a vague case. What a waste of resources IMO.


    Let me add, I do not condone ANY illegal activities, and that includes smoking pot. I would simply look at my self as a realist in cases like this..
     
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    Marijuana
    Marijuana, i.e. "Mary Jane," reefer, pot, hashish, dope, cannabis, weed, grass…it's all the same. Whether you smoke a joint, take a hit from a bong, or eat special brownies, you are ingesting some form of this illegal recreational drug. As popular as this drug is, people often don't know most of the effects it can have on the user.
    Basics
    Marijuana is made from a mixture of buds, leaves, and flowering tops of the hemp plant which grows in warm climates throughout the world. While the drug preparation and storage greatly affects its level of potency, it usually contains some several hundred active chemicals. Of these many chemicals, tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) is the one credited as having the greatest affect on the user. THC produces a variety of hallucinogenic, depressant, and stimulant effects. Users report a range of feelings while under the influence of the drug, varying from joy and relaxation, to suspicion and irritation. The "high" produced by marijuana causes physical changes such as reddening of the eyes, fast heartbeat, increased blood pressure, dry mouth, dizziness, and increased appetite.
    Effects on the Body
    Rumors have it that marijuana has relatively few adverse side-effects on the body, but these are not completely true. With its high intoxication potential, it does have relatively low dependency potential and low risk of organ damage or death. At the same time, the consequences of marijuana (even if low) should not be ignored. It has negative effects on memory - information learned while smoking or recently before smoking is easily forgotten, which is why chronic smokers are at a disadvantage at school and at work. Using marijuana with especially high potencies can be quite dangerous. High levels of THC can cause panic attacks, similar to those produced by hallucinogenic drugs, and the users can feel like they are losing their minds. There are indications that regular marijuana smoking may lead to lung disease and lung cancer. Smoking marijuana reduces the ability to expel air from the lungs even more than tobacco smoke does - this could be in part due to the fact that marijuana contains more tar and benzopyrene than tobacco smoke. As well, it is possible to become addicted to marijuana. Once a tolerance is built up and the drug is taken away, users may experience withdrawal symptoms of restlessness, irritability, and flu-like symptoms.
    Effects on Sexuality
    [​IMG] Perhaps part of the appeal of marijuana is its rumored aphrodisiac qualities. Marijuana has the reputed effect of elevating mood and arousal and stimulating sexual activity. Just think of the common stereotype of the "sex-crazed, dope-fiend" - the use of marijuana has been quite eroticized. In reality, sex under the influence of marijuana isn't always so romantic. While the drug does enhance mood and reduce inhibitions, much in the way that alcohol does, it also plays quite fickly with libido. Some claim that it substantially increases sexual desire: "My sexual drive goes up when stoned; I have more need for sex." Others experience the converse effect: "I have much less sexual drive when stoned; it's difficult to arouse me even in a situation which would normally arouse me." As well, many users fall between the two extremes: "I have no increase in sexual feelings unless it's a situation that I would normally be sexually aroused in, and then the sexual feelings are much stronger." Smokers and their partners (who may or may not be smokers) also experience different reactions to using pot during intercourse. There are some that claim a greater bond between partners, claiming marijuana facilitates a more beautiful, spiritual connection: "It may be a turn-on toward an aura of gentleness, sensitivity, and glow." The flip side to this is that lovers feel that marijuana takes each one of them into his or her own personal space and distances them: "It creates a separating, fuzzy, dreamlike quality that diffuses the reality of sex." In regards to the rumors that marijuana heightens sexual climax, much scientific research seems to discredit that. Marijuana may distort the time sense, with the resulting illusion of prolonged arousal and orgasm. Chronic marijuana smokers do show signs of infertility - men may have lower sperm counts and women may have abnormal ovulation (but this does not mean that marijuana is effective in preventing pregnancy…marijuana is not a contraceptive!). As well, marijuana is believed to inhibit testosterone synthesis in males. The use of marijuana while pregnant can be quite damaging to the health of the fetus. Because THC crosses the placental barrier, smoking increases the risk of pregnancy loss, birth defects, and retardation of fetal growth and development. ​
     
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    Im not at a job right now that tests. What I was saying earlier is if I ever get a job that tests, then Im quitting. :der:
     
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    some of this, a little of that

    My employer does not drug test either, that is unless you get hurt and go to the doc on a LNI claim. I would hate to lose over 10 years of employment over something like that.
     
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    no kidding. We have random drug testing at my job, I cant afford it. I know of a few people that have gotten caught and canned. no thanks. as much as I Want to try it out, it's not worth it.

    because he admitted it?
     
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    im pretty sure it doesnt

    i mean he DID confess and all
     
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    It's the wife's T4R so it's stock
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    yup... cause it only takes 10 minutes to have the drugs out of your hair... :rolleyes:
     
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    HAHA dood... really.... quit trying to ridicule me bc I smoke. I buzz my hair, would be out about as quick as it would take to get out of my piss. Think I haven't thought these things out?

    And Im saying that Im going to quit well before I start work at this future madeup job that I will have someday. Get off my balls man :thumbsup:
     
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    not to get too personal...but i'd bet you have hair places other than your head ;)
     
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    they take it from multiple parts usually...like underarms and back.
     
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    It's the wife's T4R so it's stock
    ^^
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    My company uses different techniques...

    There's the old standby: Urine
    And don't forget: Hair
    Or blood... :thumbsup:

    Careful with the saliva test... oh and the sweat test... it's good too... :thumbsup:
     
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    I appreciate the info on the taking hair from other places but honestly I have NEVER heard of anyone getting tested besides urine, hair, or blood. Not saying it wouldn't happen but my job will be something along the lines of Plantation management, land consulting, etc.

    Its really not a problem, and I don't even know if Im going to still be smoking when I might try to get any of these jobs, it could be a long time from now if ever, considering I might take over my dads business.

    But this is getting a little too personal... Back to what I was originally saying, smoking is not a big deal... the govt makes it look sooo bad but its no where near as addictive or harmful as alcohol or ciggs
     
  19. Feb 10, 2009 at 6:24 AM
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    Yea the urine test is the most common but it doesn't test back as far as the hair test. As far as the blood/ sweat/ and saliva test they are becomming more common because they do not test back nearly as far in history and are less expensive. The saliva test only tests the past 24 hours and cost about 75% less for a company.
     
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    Some interesting info from NORML lawyer Norm Kent, http://blog.norml.org/2009/02/10/the-marijuana-case-against-michael-phelps/#more-319

    "First and foremost, look at Michael’s exact words, never acknowledging he smoked pot. Instead, there was a carefully worded admission that he engaged in regrettable behavior, it might even have been written by a publicist—more worried about that Speedo endorsement than a criminal prosecution. That does not a confession make."

    "Since the law prosecutes possession, and there is no way to prove that there was ever pot in the pipe when Michael exercised dominion and control over it, the charge would be subject to a Motion to Dismiss for failure to establish evidentiary proof of the contraband. Proof of possession typically requires an assertion by a drug testing laboratory, which is an arm of the sheriff’s office, to swear that the substance with which you are charged is actually illegal. There is no pot to test."

    "Under the legal doctrine of Corpus Delicti, a defendant’s confession or admission of guilt cannot be introduced until after the state has presented evidence showing that a crime has in fact occurred. So Phelp’s admission cannot come into play or even be used as evidence until the commission of an actual crime is established through other, substantial competent evidence."

    http://blog.norml.org/2009/02/06/th...phelps-the-cannabis-community-drops-kelloggs/
     

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