First Oil Change

Mobil does make 0w-20. i think my buddy got his at Walmart. he runs it in his Tundra.

 

All I can find in the Walmarts out here is 0w-30 and they only sell it by the qt instead of in the big jugs. I've only check about 4 Walmarts though so I'll keep looking.

 

Just got done changing my oil. Just a tick over 800 miles. Holy hell Toyota put that oil filter on tight. Had to go with 5W-20 and a Fram filter. Any one got a link to where I might be able to figure out what bigger filter would fit the 2.7L I have seen threads about the 4.0 but have yet to find a definite answer for the 2.7

 

In most if not all aftermarket applications, both engines use the same filter. IMO, quality of the filter is more important than size. I use a K&N oil filter that filters down to 10 microns.

 

Any idea what a Fram filters to?

Plus larger filter = more surface area = better fltration as well.

 

I'm not sure about Fram's filtration rating, but you are right about the size. If two filters are the same quality, you might as well use the one that is bigger. I don't know why Toyota doesn't put the large filter on both engines.

 

I'd beware of Fram filters. I've seen some examples that are very cheaply made.

 

Please don't hijack this thread. It's about "when to change your oil the first time" not fram filters or some weird

$52 0W-20 oil Toyota/ exxon mobil Case of 6 Quarts Full Synthetic TGMO SN 0W-20 Oil

0W-20 oil. If you want to post about a different subject, simply start your own thread.

Thanks!

 

I'm just old school but I think I changed at 1200 miles as I was going on a trip. Oil was pretty dark but nothing on the drain plug.

Went back with a Toyota D-3 filter and Castrol GTX 5-30. Changed again at 2900 after that trip pulling a trailer. Pretty dark again. Will go the full 5000 miles from now on.



Also added the Fumoto drain valve to the pan on that first change and the oil changes are now under 10 minutes with no mess.

http://www.fumotousa.com/

 

I just got it changed....it's at ~500 miles. I think I'll change it again at like 2000 miles.

 

I just got it back from the place I took it to for the oil change (wasn't the dealership). They suggested I not change it at 500 miles because they said it had a special "break in oil" in it and the synthetic wouldn't be as good for it in the beginning. Never heard of that before.

I had them change it anyways.

Any thoughts on the "break in oil"???

 

It's basically piss...it's oil but it doesn't lubricate as well so the engine parts can seat themselves properly and not have any problems later on. Changing it in 500 miles is better since that's about the break-in period for engines and if you are going to use the truck for anything heavy duty then it won't lubricate the engine enough to keep it cool. It won't exactly damage it but you might lose 10,000 miles when you hit that million mark. It's insignificant but helps to change ti sooner sometimes.

 

Using high quality (Pennzoil, Castrol, etc) dinosaur oil, I change at 3,000 - 6,000, 9,000, and 12,000. Then at 15,000 go to full synthetic and change every 5,000 miles. This lets the engine get fully broken in; the switch to synthetic comes at about the point break-in turns to wear. Then the synthetic virtually elimantes the wear.

I've done this on at least a half-dozen vehicles I've bought new. All of them passed 160,000 miles with no oil-related engine problems ever and were all running strong when traded in. One dealer was amazed at how strong the 5.2L V8 in my Dakota ran with 165,000 miles.

 

The dealership I bought my truck from said to wait at least 3000 miles, and I switched to Mobile 1 full syn. I don't think you have to wait to switch because the tundras and a few other toyotas come off the lot new with mobile 1 full syn. I was also told that you can switch back and forth if you don't like it.

 

You can go as long as you want on old dyno oil, and then switch to synthetic (though not recommended for really high millage). You just can't go the other way around. Most performance engine break ins are done with mineral at 5min, 10 min, 100mi, 500, 1500, 3k from there on.

That wouldn't be needed on a stock taco. At all. I actually just followed the manual (correctly or incorrectly presuming toyota already did the initial break in)... my oil's was clean as a whistle on the 10k (first time I did it myself on this truck). And that was with dyno. Switched over to castrol gtx syntec this round with a k&n filter, I'll see how it goes at 15k-ish. On my 3000GT i used to do full synthetic every 1.5-3k. I was paranoid with the turbos lol. I did also redline it damn near every time I drove it

 

I change it up once a month, or every 2000 miles what ever one comes 1st, also right before road trips, my buddy works at jiffy lube we "ACT" like we own the place ( i dont even work there) but i act as if i do to- they dont say shit to me at least? so i use there tools and shit to do every thing they only make sure I pay for what i throw into it

 

I'm old school. The service writer told me you don't have to do the first change at 500 any more, but even he would not wait for 5000, said 4000. I'd do exactly what you outlined. Cheap insurance if you ask me.

 

Why would Toyota recommend something that was not safe for the engine, especially if they are the ones that have to pay to have it fixed (warranty)? Why not just stick to what the owner's manual states? IMHO, you have a bunch of "weekend mechanics" on this board, each with their own "opinion" on what is "best" for the engine, but really, it's all mostly based on assumptions, with little to no fact. Don't you think Toyota, the number one automobile manufacturer in the world, and a company renowned for its high-mileage, long-lasting vehicles, puts just a little bit of research into these things before making the recommendations? Besides, do you think it really makes a difference for an engine that is supposed to last 300k miles +, if you conduct your first oil change at 2,500 or 5,000? I personally don't....but maybe I'm wrong, maybe there's someone on these boards who has had a Toyota engine fail because they waited the extra 2,500 miles to change the initial oil. Please correct me if I'm wrong, or way off base on this one...

Anyway, I feel it really comes down to personal choice and is essentially just a "tuh-mey-toh" "tuh-mah-toh" sort of thing...shoot, change the oil every 5 miles if it makes you feel better, but I'll get off of my soapbox now ;-)

 

I'm going with Chris on this one. Do you guys really think these engines or any engines leave the factory untested? About when to switch to synthetics.... You guys do know that most high performance vehicles like Corvettes, etc... come with synthetic from the factory right? Again, you can use whatever you want right now. No need to wait to switch.