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ENGAGE offroad lower arm broke i need your guys opinion on this

Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by tacoman68, Nov 29, 2011.

  1. Nov 29, 2011 at 8:43 PM
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    amaes

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  2. Nov 29, 2011 at 8:44 PM
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    :anonymous: holy crap :eek: that sucks man...hopefully everything gets resolved
     
  3. Nov 29, 2011 at 8:45 PM
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    caged, camburg long travel, 50t leafpack (soon to be installed) light rack over cab, 5pt harnesses etc

    actually engage has 4wd axels now just so your not mis informing people..

    and you got to remember, camburg and total chaos has been in the buisness for way longer so they have had more time to work out the kinks. im sure hass and the group will figure out some type of gusset or something to fix this problem.

    im in no way backing anyone up but im just stating my opinion.

    and the first kit this happened too, i watched the video and it looked like it was from the roll, i dont think its what caused it, just my .02
     
  4. Nov 29, 2011 at 8:47 PM
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    that doesn't sound like A+ service to me. their suspension parts broke doing what they are supposed to be built for....
     
  5. Nov 29, 2011 at 8:49 PM
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    damn, looks like I know what Im gonna be gusseting this weekend!

    sorry this happened :( I hope Hassim takes care of you and all the costs, there should be no excuse. Thankfully I've been lucky
     
  6. Nov 29, 2011 at 8:51 PM
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    id have to see it to believe it. and how long has their "4WD" kit been on blackhawke88's truck? like 3 years. but come on go on burgs site their kit is a race kit not just lt.
     
  7. Nov 29, 2011 at 8:51 PM
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    Hope everything works out for the best!!!
     
  8. Nov 29, 2011 at 8:54 PM
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    they came out with axels like a month ago.....:rolleyes:
     
  9. Nov 29, 2011 at 8:54 PM
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  10. Nov 29, 2011 at 8:56 PM
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    got pics? :confused:
     
  11. Nov 29, 2011 at 8:56 PM
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    it's like this..i've had my LT kit for over 2 years now. and i've beat my taco to shit pre-running, rock crawling, towing duties towing my rock crawler, and everything else i've done. if god forbid some catastrophic failure happens to my LT kit resulting in major breakage to the LT kit, and collateral frame damage happens as a result. should i expect All Pro to flip the entire bill? nah, i would not expect them to...with the abuses that we inflict on our suspension systems; wear and tear happens over time. sometimes something is gonna give up and fail and is to be expected.

    side note: there has been exactly the same breakage on stock lower control arms on 05+ Tacomas
     
  12. Nov 29, 2011 at 8:59 PM
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    X2 I remember HB Murphy broke his stock LCAs at the same spot, I hooked him up with my old stockers :notsure:
     
  13. Nov 29, 2011 at 9:01 PM
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    I think i will just gusset around the tubes so they don't split.
     
  14. Nov 29, 2011 at 9:08 PM
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    Yeah you did! Thanks again!!! ...And I was so nervous about the idea that this could happen at the absolute worst time, I went to these puppies:

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    My worry now is that I may pull my whole front end apart... These are 2x as thick.

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  15. Nov 29, 2011 at 9:14 PM
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    your next step is to gusset everything..MJP2 has some cool homebrew gussets, get with him. or hit up DMZ, they have some gusset kits as well. shoot, you have a bombass plasma cutter. you can make your own:D
     
  16. Nov 29, 2011 at 9:18 PM
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    Seems like really thin walled tubing. It's obviously a major stress point on our trucks and everyone making aftermatket products needs to address it in some way. If not, why buy aftermatket if they're just gonna break the same as stock?
     
  17. Nov 29, 2011 at 9:21 PM
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    engage's lca material looks the same as the stock lowers?? those tc lowers are at least 2-3 times as thick...
     
  18. Nov 29, 2011 at 9:25 PM
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    Geez, you're right. I would never, ever use such thin-walled tubing for the pivots. But that's me.

    Could be a bad weld due to a lack of penetration. Could be that they didn't use DOM tubing. Could actually be DOM, just not thick enough. Could have been excessive wear and tear. COuld be a lot of things. I wonder if Engage will comment on this.

    For others who have the same LCA's, I would look into reinforcing those sections. Like all the way around the tubing, not just a diamond gusset over the joint.
     
  19. Nov 29, 2011 at 9:26 PM
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    If they going to be using thinner tubing I would put a piece that wraps around from the top plate around the back of the tubing to the bottom, this should be plenty of strength.

    Also, weld the inside of the lower mounts on the frame (Since they're only welded on the outside).
     
  20. Nov 29, 2011 at 9:35 PM
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    1st IBTL cuz we all know how this is going to eventually turn out
    :rolleyes:
     

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