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Toyota Diesel

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by twfsa, Dec 3, 2011.

  1. Dec 3, 2011 at 7:41 AM
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    twfsa

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    A few months back there was interest in a diesel powered Tacoma, noticed here in the midwest that diesel cost a $1 more than reg gas not such a great saving, and it will only be going up as diesel fuel in the winter has to be blended, ( mixture of #1 and 2 ) to hopefully prevent geling. Then there's the cost of having to use #1( at an additional cost of 0.30 more a gal ) only in the winter because its to cold to use even the blended fuel. I'll keep my gas burner!
     
  2. Dec 3, 2011 at 7:44 AM
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  4. Dec 3, 2011 at 9:52 AM
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    You guys are dense. I'm with you OP, I like the fact that my Taco is getting ~18mpg with gas. Granted, if it were a diesel it'd probably have a lot more torque, get ~24mpg, but damn, $3.94/gal is a big difference from $2.94/gal.


    Edit: I just figured out why they couldn't understand your post: 2nd genners.
     
  5. Dec 3, 2011 at 10:05 AM
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    I got rid of a diesel Excursion earlier this year with the crappy 6.0. I had it for a few years, and when it was working, it was great. At one point I think in 2009 I was paying 2.95 a gallon for diesel and gas was slightly more expensive. When I got rid of it earlier this year, diesel was about .50 a gallon more expensive. The price of diesel vs. gas fluctuates.

    I'd still like to see more manufacturers coming out with clean diesels. They are way more efficient than diesels of old, and once you get used to that torque, it's hard to live without it.
     
  6. Dec 3, 2011 at 11:17 AM
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    spend a few bucks more to fill the tank..get 10-20 better Mpg then our gas burners..hmmm...
     
  7. Dec 3, 2011 at 11:19 AM
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    Wait, what? Are we doing this again? I'd love to have a diesel for many reasons.
     
  8. Dec 3, 2011 at 11:45 AM
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    I've put over 100,000 miles on a VW diesel burning free vegetable oil. If I had a diesel Taco, it would be burning vegetable oil for sure. You can also make biodiesel at home.
     
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    Ive often wondered, if you run biodiesel in your engine, can you still use regualr diesel in it? Like say your out of town and need to fill up?

    Can the two be combined and still run properly? Forgive me if its a dumb question lol.
     
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  14. Dec 4, 2011 at 9:26 AM
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    Yeah until something breaks and you pay out the ass to repair it I have had 3 Cummins diesels in Dodge Trks and it cost to repair them ( parts ) big time, not to mention what you say do the math do it and start by figureing out the cost of fuel, and air filters, the 3 gals ( $12 a gal ) of oil it takes to change the oil, if its a diesel it cost more to maintain, so any mileage you gain you loose in repair and maintance cost, Did anyone figure out the initial cost of the diesel option the Cummins was a $4500 option , buy alot of gas for that, insurance cost more, Oh I forgot this benifit you think you are cool so you leave it idle while your at the big box store.
     
  15. Dec 4, 2011 at 10:47 AM
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    Are you insinuating that Toyota diesel's quality and maintenance costs are comparable to Dodge diesel's quality and maintenance cost? :der:
     
  16. Dec 4, 2011 at 11:29 AM
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    Well I can't speak for Toyota's Quality or if even Toyota builds there own diesel, but Cummins had been around for quite some time. The point I was trying to make is a diesel may have logevity for the most part, but there's not that much savings in fuel mileage versus initial cost and maintanance. I did a short google search on Toyota's diesel and it appears that BMW is going to partner with Toyota, I don't think that a BMW diesel option is going to be cheap nor will there replacement parts.
    http://www.nitrobahn.com/news/toyota-and-bmw-collaborate-to-share-diesel-engines-and-hybrid-tech/
     
  17. Dec 4, 2011 at 11:50 AM
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    What cost? Please produce cost figures (we're not interested in Dodge, Ford, or Chevy engines). Toyota has an extensive line of engines to research. For example, the Hilux has an estimated 28/30MPG for the 3.0L I4 Turbo vs the 17/20 MPG with the 2.7L. I think that evens up the price of gas.
     
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    Its not dodge's diesel, its a CUMMINS.
    If you have to ask who or what cummins is, then you clearly shouldn't even be in this conversation.
    I had a 98 cummins, best effin motor I have ever owned.
    350,000km with zero issues from -40*C Canadian winters to a sweltering +30*C hauling trailers through the Rockies up long winding grades that would bring any other truck to its knees.
     
  19. Dec 4, 2011 at 4:11 PM
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    I have a VW diesel car. When the warranty runs out and you need parts/service, it will cost twice or more what a gas vehicle will. Trust me.

    If you think you can work on them yourself, good luck. Even the VW dealers can't seem to fix them! the internet is full of horror stories in regards to VW diesels and VW dealers screwing them up even more.

    don't get me wrong, they are great cars overall BUT they are prone to breakage due to the crap low sulfer fuel we are forced to use in the USA. They use a different blend in Europe and don't have near the trouble we do here.

    Check out the VW TDI forum for horror stories of diesel car ownership in the USA. FWIW
     
  20. Dec 4, 2011 at 5:24 PM
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    You didnt know Toyota made Diesels :rolleyes:. Chevy is better but not much.
     

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