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Reinforcing the Grill

Discussion in 'HomerTaco' started by BrokenTusk, Dec 27, 2011.

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  1. Dec 27, 2011 at 8:30 PM
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    ****UPDATE****
    I discovered something else... There shouldn't be any issues with the front colour surround coming off as I found out what happened when I took it apart.. It was my fault [​IMG]

    During my S/C install I broke the passenger side black circle clip, and forgot to ever replace it, the vibes from the high speeds ended up breaking the passenger side lower rectangular clip. both clips broken cause enough movement to slowly tear off the colour surround from the passenger side [​IMG]
    ****UPDATE****

    Alrighty, so I've discovered a problem structurally with the stock grills, looking for your input on how to reinforce the grill, mostly because I don't want the same thing happening to zee sexy custom one.

    What Happened: My Tacoma frequents speeds slightly higher then your average Tacoma, Always on closed course roads in Mexico, and hypothetically speaking usually in the 200+km/h range. So the wind forces cause such a beating on the front that it actually peeled off the front colour surround from the back structural plastic section. (I think there's like 25ish connection spots)

    At said hypothetical speeds, the top left (passenger side) started to peel, I heard a loud snap and as I started to slow I heard SNAP SNAP SNAP like a dozen times in a row, until finally I came to a stop, and the grill colour surround was only being held on by about 4 support points on the lower right (drivers side)
    [​IMG]

    I've heard of this happening a couple times over on X-Ru.com as well. As you can see in the pic below all the snapped bracing points. I was thinking using a little bit of hot glue on all the points since I'll never have to actually seperate the grill and surround piece. Just wondering what your idea on this would be, I don't want to accidently ruin the good one.

    [​IMG]
     
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  2. Dec 27, 2011 at 8:34 PM
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    [​IMG]

    and you spelled color wrong... :rolleyes:
     
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  3. Dec 27, 2011 at 8:39 PM
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    [​IMG]

    And I spelt colour fine :cool:
     
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  4. Dec 27, 2011 at 8:45 PM
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    :D

    you are pretty much spot on though.

    I'm not sure about additional epoxy being of help but if our OP of this thread had expressed these "high speed" concerns with me PRIOR to the build I could have made some custom reinforcements that would have eliminated the possibility of this ever happening again... :cool:
    I doubt it will as the heat welds I perform are more thorough than the OEM assembly line ones. :D
    You would notice if you look carefully at the back of one of my grills that there are only two places where i do not melt the tabs back. On the OEM grills I have found some are only partially melted. ;)
     
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  5. Dec 27, 2011 at 8:46 PM
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    Another idea would be to put a bead of sealant around the rim where the grille surround meets the grille, so air wouldn't get in and lift it.
     
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  6. Dec 27, 2011 at 8:47 PM
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    BTW - It looks like someone punched your truck in the nose... :laughing:
     
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  7. Dec 27, 2011 at 8:47 PM
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    Wait, you mean the front colour surround is already plastic welded in place??

    And If had broke earlier then I could've warned you :( I myself just learned of this issue on saturday
     
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  8. Dec 27, 2011 at 8:48 PM
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    I thought with the two big open black areas at the top it added a major ricer feel. I WANT ALL THE AIR DAMS!! lol
     
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  9. Dec 27, 2011 at 8:49 PM
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    they fit pretty tight, but if speed racer here is still concerned that might not be a bad idea either. ;)

    [​IMG]
     
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  10. Dec 27, 2011 at 8:51 PM
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    what happened to the rest of your front bumper dude?
     
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  11. Dec 27, 2011 at 8:51 PM
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  12. Dec 27, 2011 at 8:53 PM
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    I hit a tree a month ago hidden in the snow drift on the road, caused this:

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    But new parts are on my living room floor, just waiting on the clips toyota forgot to order :rolleyes:

    [​IMG]
     
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  13. Dec 27, 2011 at 8:54 PM
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    Bummer. :(
     
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  14. Dec 27, 2011 at 8:56 PM
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    ouch. dang thing looks like a pre runner lol
     
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  15. Dec 27, 2011 at 8:57 PM
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    $1368$ Bummer :(
     
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  16. Dec 27, 2011 at 8:57 PM
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    Never utter such insults about my baby like that :cool:
     
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  17. Dec 27, 2011 at 8:59 PM
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  18. Dec 27, 2011 at 9:03 PM
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    Thats just parts and paint, it'd be worse if I didn't pull the old ones off myself and plan to reinstall them myself
     
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    I apologize lol, I would hate if my x looked like that. how you liking the blower so far?
     
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  20. Dec 27, 2011 at 9:09 PM
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    I love it, The underdrive pulley makes the world of difference, at max rpms and foot to the floor I'm making 15.3 pounds of boost according to the intake manifold pressure sensor. Just gotta get a whole new exhaust because the local shop butchered mine :( then light weight pullies and a tune...
     
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